Future SSJ Trunks (Trunks saga) VS 100 % Mecha Frieza and King Cold

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Future SSJ Trunks (Trunks saga) VS 100 % Mecha Frieza and King Cold; Fight
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+ Pyrus	Aug 6 2011, 08:24 PM Post #16
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Mirai Trunks http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8332316&t=8308059 King Cold may have been stronger than Mecha Frieza. Also, he may have been in his second form, whether he can transform further is unknown. He seems like more of a political person who would rather talk someone over to their side than force them but that doesn't mean he isn't really strong. Regardless, I give this to Trunks. He seems like the kind of person that would rather be a dirty trick instead of fighting fairly. POOHEAD189 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8332319&t=8308059 Yes he finished them in seconds. But Frieza, I believe, was not full power. SSJ Goku on namek could kill 50% power frieza just as quick if he wanted to. King Cold was not at full power. I don't know if he was at his 2nd form or not, but I doubt it was his 100% final. Trunks never gave them time to power up. He just killed them. It doesn't really matter. Trunks told them both to fight him at full power, and was confident he would still come out on top. Maybe it wouldn't have been an easy win, but he would have won regardless, unless you're going doubt his confidence for some reason.
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+ Clearin	Aug 6 2011, 08:25 PM Post #17
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Vegeta was confident he could beat Perfect Cell too Of course I don't doubt Trunks was stronger, just saiyan.



+ Pyrus	Aug 6 2011, 08:28 PM Post #18
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Trunks isn't cocky like Vegeta, so I don't think that point works.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Aug 6 2011, 09:48 PM Post #19
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	POOHEAD189 Aug 6 2011, 07:53 PM Yes he finished them in seconds. But Frieza, I believe, was not full power. SSJ Goku on namek could kill 50% power frieza just as quick if he wanted to. King Cold was not at full power. I don't know if he was at his 2nd form or not, but I doubt it was his 100% final. Trunks never gave them time to power up. He just killed them. dont know what you mean by NOT giving them time, he gave frieza all the time he needed and frieza ran his mouth. Frieza attacked him, trunks dodged it, told frieza AGAIN, you need all of your power if you hope to kill me. How did that get lost on you? he prompted and prodded frieza over and over to power up. frieza thought it wasnt necessary, king cold ran his mouth posturating and scraping, and they DIDNt have time? ok..



POOHEAD189	Aug 6 2011, 10:10 PM Post #20
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	Quote: It doesn't really matter. Trunks told them both to fight him at full power, and was confident he would still come out on top. Maybe it wouldn't have been an easy win, but he would have won regardless, unless you're going doubt his confidence for some reason. I doubt Trunks knew Freiza and especially King Cold's true power. Freiza was confident he could win, but that obviously didn't work out. Quote: dont know what you mean by NOT giving them time, he gave frieza all the time he needed and frieza ran his mouth. Frieza attacked him, trunks dodged it, told frieza AGAIN, you need all of your power if you hope to kill me. How did that get lost on you? he prompted and prodded frieza over and over to power up. frieza thought it wasnt necessary, king cold ran his mouth posturating and scraping, and they DIDNt have time? ok.. In the manga, he didn't give frieza 3 strikes. Frieza fired at him. Trunks dodged, shot a beam that made frieza jump, then Trunks appeared above frieza and cut him in half. And King Cold did talk to him for a bit, but thats still nothing to the anime convo. By that time though, it was already too late for Cold. He had no more backup. Edited by POOHEAD189, Aug 6 2011, 10:12 PM.
	Tha gaol agam ort. <3


* Yu Narukami	Aug 6 2011, 10:13 PM Post #21
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	At most, Trunks was told that Frieza was very strong. His only source was Bulma and she can't sense energy. He encountered them knowing only that they would be very strong. Not much to go by. And Gohan confirmed that the energy they were sensing from Frieza when he arrived was 'nothing' compared to his true strength



+ Pyrus	Aug 6 2011, 11:08 PM Post #22
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Mirai Trunks http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8332390&t=8308059 At most, Trunks was told that Frieza was very strong. His only source was Bulma and she can't sense energy. He encountered them knowing only that they would be very strong. Not much to go by. And Gohan confirmed that the energy they were sensing from Frieza when he arrived was 'nothing' compared to his true strength She apparently could in the future. POOHEAD189 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8332388&t=8308059 I doubt Trunks knew Freiza and especially King Cold's true power. Freiza was confident he could win, but that obviously didn't work out. Freeza can't sense ki. Trunks certainly knew how powerful Freeza was. After the androids, Freeza was the big bad on the block, so he surely would've been told by someone how powerful Freeza was, or at least given a good idea. I doubt Gohan would just neglect to mention Freeza. I can't really go further into my argument because it'll turn into a Future Gohan strength debate...
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+ Clearin	Aug 6 2011, 11:14 PM Post #23
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Kamikaze Pyro Aug 6 2011, 11:08 PM Freeza can't sense ki. Trunks certainly knew how powerful Freeza was. After the androids, Freeza was the big bad on the block, so he surely would've been told by someone how powerful Freeza was, or at least given a good idea. I doubt Gohan would just neglect to mention Freeza. I can't really go further into my argument because it'll turn into a Future Gohan strength debate... Well the only possible person who could tell him how strong Freeza was would be Gohan, and even then he wouldn't be able to give an exact number. Also Gohan never even saw Freeza in 100% final form so he'd be telling Trunks Freeza's 50% form at best.



+ Pyrus	Aug 6 2011, 11:17 PM Post #24
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Teen GohanZ Aug 6 2011, 11:14 PM Kamikaze Pyro Aug 6 2011, 11:08 PM Freeza can't sense ki. Trunks certainly knew how powerful Freeza was. After the androids, Freeza was the big bad on the block, so he surely would've been told by someone how powerful Freeza was, or at least given a good idea. I doubt Gohan would just neglect to mention Freeza. I can't really go further into my argument because it'll turn into a Future Gohan strength debate... Well the only possible person who could tell him how strong Freeza was would be Gohan, and even then he wouldn't be able to give an exact number. Also Gohan never even saw Freeza in 100% final form so he'd be telling Trunks Freeza's 50% form at best. He was still on Namek when Freeza went to 100%, as was Piccolo.
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NeoSSayajin	Aug 6 2011, 11:25 PM Post #25
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Gohan saw Frieza at 100% full power on Namek, but it may exist the possibility that he also saw it during the battle between Future Yardrat Goku and Future Mecha Frieza on Earth...



+ Pyrus	Aug 6 2011, 11:27 PM Post #26
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	NeoSSayajin Aug 6 2011, 11:25 PM Gohan saw Frieza at 100% full power on Namek, but it may exist the possibility that he also saw it during the battle between Future Yardrat Goku and Future Mecha Frieza on Earth... Yeah, that's a possibility as well. But since it makes Trunks seem stronger and Gohan seem weaker, it can't work.
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POOHEAD189	Aug 7 2011, 06:38 PM Post #27
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	Quote: Freeza can't sense ki. Trunks certainly knew how powerful Freeza was. After the androids, Freeza was the big bad on the block, so he surely would've been told by someone how powerful Freeza was, or at least given a good idea. I doubt Gohan would just neglect to mention Freeza. I can't really go further into my argument because it'll turn into a Future Gohan strength debate... Yes he can sense ki, which is why he knew he could beat frieza, who wasn't at full power. And unless theres a manga panel showing Gohan acknowledging Freiza's 100% final form strength, I doubt he could have sensed it. And even if he could, all Trunks would have known was that Freiza was no match for Goku on Namek, something Gohan knew. All this tells me is that Trunks just needed to be that strong to beat Freiza. Not mecha frieza and his dad.
	Tha gaol agam ort. <3


+ Pyrus	Aug 7 2011, 07:38 PM Post #28
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	POOHEAD189 Aug 7 2011, 06:38 PM Yes he can sense ki, which is why he knew he could beat frieza, who wasn't at full power. And unless theres a manga panel showing Gohan acknowledging Freiza's 100% final form strength, I doubt he could have sensed it. And even if he could, all Trunks would have known was that Freiza was no match for Goku on Namek, something Gohan knew. All this tells me is that Trunks just needed to be that strong to beat Freiza. Not mecha frieza and his dad. Chapter: 321 (DBZ 127), P6.2 Gohan: “To top it off, it looks like Freeza’s ki is getting bigger again…! What’s happening!?” So yes, Gohan felt 100% Freeza. You're just assuming Trunks is some clueless idiot when all points to him being just plain stronger than Freeza. I honestly don't see the problem with it, at all... It feels like it's your mission to just doubt character statements, man. However he knew, he knew how powerful he needed to be to beat Freeza (and Cold). Nothing contradicts this, unlike with the Vegeta situation someone else pointed out. If nothing contradicts a statement, it's true unless there's overwhelming evidence against it, and Trunks just not knowing isn't overwhelming evidence. The whole point of bringing back Freeza was to show how powerful the future threat would be, yet you think Toriyama would make Trunks weaker than this Freeza? Toriyama must've been downright retarded that day to make that decision.
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