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Base Goten (First appearance) VS 100% Frieza; Fight
Topic Started: Aug 5 2011, 08:30 PM (4,290 Views)
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Kamikaze Pyro
Aug 5 2011, 10:10 PM
Yeah, I probably should have used the fight with Goku instead of East Kaioshin.

Still, @Teen, how do you explain Gohan and Goten's sparring? And the guidebook entry(s)?
Gohan and Goten's sparring? Do I really need too? The word sparring should explain it by itself XD
As for the guidebook...well do you follow everything a guidebook says? :p Hypothetical question of course, I already know you don't ;)
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I don't understand why people just assume since they're sparring they're not trying their hardest. That would undermine the entire purpose of sparring, which is to get stronger/better. Both of them looked like they were getting a good workout, and I don't think just because they weren't trying to kill each other means they weren't trying hard.
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Aug 5 2011, 10:35 PM
I don't understand why people just assume since they're sparring they're not trying their hardest. That would undermine the entire purpose of sparring, which is to get stronger/better. Both of them looked like they were getting a good workout, and I don't think just because they weren't trying to kill each other means they weren't trying hard.
The less they try the longer they can go without losing breath, thus get more training? I just think it'd be too easy to injure each other if they were both the same power and using everything they had.

I'm sure many characters have held back for weaker people in the past, such as Piccolo for Gohan.

I also think that if he was THAT strong he would knock 18 out in 1 punch as a SSj, even not at full power. I know "It would rip the costume" but I don't believe that, not only did neither of them say anything about that but if it was going to happen it would have happened already... I think so anyway.
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Well, I'm not going to convince you then, sir.
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I'm damn serious

Lol at the kid haters

Base goten would 1 shot Freiza,anybody relevant in the 19/20 saga can clown freiza(SSJ Vegeta,piccolo,Goku,trunks,19,20,17,18,16 and cell with no one absorbed)
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Aug 6 2011, 02:07 PM
Lol at the kid haters

Base goten would 1 shot Freiza,anybody relevant in the 19/20 saga can clown freiza(SSJ Vegeta,piccolo,Goku,trunks,19,20,17,18,16 and cell with no one absorbed)
Goten is one of my top 10 characters... Doesn't mean I'm going to place him extremely high like some people. I think I have him at a believable place to be honest.
Krillin's my 2nd favourite character but because I have him lower than Tien I must be a Krillin hater! Great logic!
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it is great logic when every piece of evidence we have places all the base saiyans well above any of the androids, and you disregard it all because you don't think ill fitting clothing should make a difference in a fight.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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I'm damn serious

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Aug 6 2011, 02:11 PM
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Lol at the kid haters

Base goten would 1 shot Freiza,anybody relevant in the 19/20 saga can clown freiza(SSJ Vegeta,piccolo,Goku,trunks,19,20,17,18,16 and cell with no one absorbed)
Goten is one of my top 10 characters... Doesn't mean I'm going to place him extremely high like some people. I think I have him at a believable place to be honest.
Krillin's my 2nd favourite character but because I have him lower than Tien I must be a Krillin hater! Great logic!
Ignoring what's shown in the manga and underrating a character is what I consider a hater,especially when they keep ignoring and can't deal with the truth.

Don't even bother quoting me with this kind of b.s again,and may I also ask why you have krillen weaker than ten when yamcha says at the tournament that krillen was he strongest earthling?
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Yes the costume did give them a disability they said that. But they didn't say anything about the costume ripping off if they threw a punch too hard, the fact they'd been fighting millions above the regular human speed that the suit was made for and still didn't come off kinda makes me feel like it's not going to come off at all just by punching in it.

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Ignoring what's shown in the manga and underrating a character is what I consider a hater,especially when they keep ignoring and can't deal with the truth.

Don't even bother quoting me with this kind of b.s again,and may I also ask why you have krillen weaker than ten when yamcha says at the tournament that krillen was he strongest earthling?

I placed my power rankings by what's shown in the manga...

Yamcha was talking to the guys daughter, I don't think he's going to say "Strongest among Earthlings....except Tien...."

Don't reply to me again if you're going to be a jerk either <_<
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

This is complete spite, Son Goten just slaps Freeza aside. He fought while being restricted by a costume against freaking 18#.
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Badabing!

Goten can't fly. That's the only disadvantage so if Frieza uses kienzan's he might get screwed.
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I don't think they mentioned anything because they weren't going to actually fight as Super Saiyans in the costume. They immediately went to ki blasts, so we can't know for certain that they wouldn't have encountered problems actually fighting as Super Saiyans. I think the fact that Trunks immediately went to ki blasts kind of suggests that they still couldn't win as Super Saiyans in the costume, either because it would rip or because it still restricted their movement, which is kind of the same thing but whatever, you get my point. We know it can't be because they're still too weak.
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Teen, I'm sorry, but, that's really flawed thinking.

Goten absolutely mauls Freeza.
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Aug 9 2011, 03:10 AM
Teen, I'm sorry, but, that's really flawed thinking.

Goten absolutely mauls Freeza.
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Goten destroys frieza using one hand. Only his one hand.
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