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Were Goku and Vegeta SSJ2 in this clip?
Topic Started: Aug 3 2011, 06:36 AM (10,300 Views)
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Vegeta was a SSJ2 after the powerup before attacking Buuhan. As for Goku I think he was only a SSJ for some reason. Im not sure why he wouldnt atleast powerup to a SSJ2, unless this isfiller but I dont know for sure.
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Yes, this scene is complete filler.
Goku and Vegeta would never go head on with Buuhan thats just asking to be murdered. As much pride as Vegeta has and has shown in this scene, in truth he wouldn't to the manga.

It's funny.
Goku is definitely Super Saiyan so im guessing Vegeta is as well. His hair at the start of the fight defines he is SSJ but the weird thing is their aura changes from resembling SSJ2 a bit to SSJ.
Vegeta's hair also changes slightly to resemble his SSJ2 hair but there's next to nothing in comparison with his hair in both forms apart from lightning.

Yep they definitely are SSJ and this definitely is some filler thats screws up the logic of DBZ :D

SSJ3 Goku was scared to fight Super Buu yet he'll take on Buuhan as a team of regular SSJ's HAHA :lol:
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They transform as SSj1 first, then power-up to SSj2 afterwards; the way their hair is drawn is an indication of that.

With Goku's however, it was common for some animators to mistakenly draw his SSj2 hair differently from how it was depicted in the manga--where it was 3 (sometimes 4) spikes towards the bottom--instead they'll sometimes add an extra more than that, which will usually confuse it with his SSj1 hair.
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It's really hard to tell when Vegeta is SSj or SSj2 lol
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I thought initally they were ssj. Then when Vegeta got some lightning, I thought he was maybe going ssj2, and his hair after that looked a bit lighter, making me think he was ssj2. However, to me it looks like Goku stayed ssj the whole time.

Also I'm sick of Vegeta's pride. It made this clip look laughable.

Also is Vegeta and Goku fighting Buu filler?

edit: Nevermind DbzHybrid said it's filler I just saw. Surely it's not all filler though? Even their conversation before fusing?
Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Aug 3 2011, 02:03 PM.
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I always thought they were SSJ, and that it was just dumb filler. I guess maybe since Vegeta could probably only go SSJ at this time since he wasn't Majin, Goku decided it would be easier to sway him if he didn't "mock" him with SSJ2
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has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
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Aug 3 2011, 09:36 AM
They transform as SSj1 first, then power-up to SSj2 afterwards; the way their hair is drawn is an indication of that.

With Goku's however, it was common for some animators to mistakenly draw his SSj2 hair differently from how it was depicted in the manga--where it was 3 (sometimes 4) spikes towards the bottom--instead they'll sometimes add an extra more than that, which will usually confuse it with his SSj1 hair.
But Goku's SSJ hair looks nothing like his SSJ2 hair. He only has one bang out the front like Gohan.

His little side bangs never move from those places, not even when he's outputting energy i.e. Kamehameha
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Goku either has 4 or 5 bangs out the front in SSJ and only 1 bang out the front in SSJ2. Whats weird about the clip is Vegeta's hair does seem to change and be more defined but Goku is definitely SSJ so Vegeta has to be as well.
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I though that Vegeta could not go SSJ2 after his Majin seal...or is that heavily debatable?
Edited by J-Smack, Aug 3 2011, 02:18 PM.
darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
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It's debatable. A lot of people argue than Vegeta was able to go SSJ2 at the start of the Buu saga and that he attained the transformation in the 7 year gap between the Cell Saga and the Buu saga. Others say that he's not able to go SSJ2 at all after the Majin seal.
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Anybody arguing Vegeta couldn't go Super Saiyan 2 at all after the Majin seal must not have read the final fight. Lol. He's clearly a Super Saiyan 2 there, hair, aura, lightning and all. Jeez.

But no, they're not Super Saiyan 2s here. The lightning Vegeta displays isn't the same lightning that appears on Super Saiyan 2s. They're both just regular Super Saiyans here for some stupid reason, just like they were inside Boo's head.
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Cause the filler artists are dumb or lazy, lol.
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@ Kamikaze Agreed. Just another dumb example of filler >.<

Vegeta could turn into an SSJ2 and Goku could turn into an SSJ3, why didn't they? Sure, they still wouldn't stand a chance but if they were going to fight anyway, they may as well have taken it seriously
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its debateable if vegeta was ssj2, but not goku, i actually think that vegetas anger tapped him into a reserve he hasnt cultivated yet. But for a split second it seemed as if he DID achieve ssj2 level of power, while shooting, didnt work though. so it hardly matters.
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Aug 3 2011, 05:47 PM
@ Kamikaze Agreed. Just another dumb example of filler >.<

Vegeta could turn into an SSJ2 and Goku could turn into an SSJ3, why didn't they? Sure, they still wouldn't stand a chance but if they were going to fight anyway, they may as well have taken it seriously
Goku didn't use Super Saiyan 3 until Vegeta confronted him about it, so that could be the reason he didn't use it here.
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