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| SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Saga) Vs. FDabura (Buu Saga) | |
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Aug 7 2011, 11:39 PM Post #61 |
 
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refer to the kais telling him what was going on. He wasnt able to, goku didnt want to either. How is that being left out? if you are too weak to turn ssj2 then thats it. Lack of sparks yet you acquire the x2-50x power up???? for WHAT reason??!! vegeta powered up to fight the monster, goku powered up to fight vegeta AND the monster. Gohan DIDNt go ssj2 cause he didnt need too, PLUS he already knew what would happen if too much power was given off, it was the whole point of the fight. WHY is that being left out? WHY would gohan release the monster and not save everyone by defeating dabura with as little power as possible? Its exactly what he did. Dabura died and VEGETA flipped out. So cmon.... Edited by Paikuan extreme, Aug 7 2011, 11:42 PM.
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| Wintergreen5000 | Aug 7 2011, 11:40 PM Post #62 |
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The reason why Gohan didn't use SSjin 2 is beyond me to give a true answer. That is one for Toriyama. However, I suspect that one, either Gohan had initially looked forward to facing and defeating Dabra in fair combat, or two, Gohan was afraid to actually use SSjin 2 in serious combat after what happened to Goku. It was pride or fear.
Edited by Wintergreen5000, Aug 7 2011, 11:41 PM.
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| + Clearin | Aug 7 2011, 11:41 PM Post #63 |
 
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Wasn't able to turn SSj2? I'm not sure if that's what your referring to but if it is then he proved he could at the world tournament..
Edited by Clearin, Aug 7 2011, 11:43 PM.
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Aug 7 2011, 11:44 PM Post #64 |
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able to as in NOT having that choice, are we gonna play semantics now? Thats another game im good at. How is someone Too weak to turn ssj2 eith sparks still turn then? the sparks come with the aura change FROM the power up. The aura changes because the energy output changes. So then how does a person who just got 200x stronger be too weak? nope the spark ar apart of the transformation for a reason, and its NOT to argue about. The hairstyle and the sparks are gone with gohan, that is important. His power output is important. There is no way to prove he went ssj2 against dabura, no drawing confirmation, no feats, Perfect cell was NOWHERE NEAR ssj2 level, its just that gohans mssj wasnt good enough. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Aug 7 2011, 11:48 PM.
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| Wintergreen5000 | Aug 7 2011, 11:44 PM Post #65 |
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@ Ninja - You missed the part I said about Vegeta never stating he was FAR beyond Gohan. Stronger, yes. But to the point where he is truly on another level? No. @ Gohanz - Yes. You can use my statement to say that such speculation is quite useless. I would agree. But if you ask me to give an answer I will try my best to do so. However, I've already given evidence to suggest that, no, he is not SSjin 2. Why he didn't use it is a different matter altogether. Edited by Wintergreen5000, Aug 7 2011, 11:47 PM.
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| + Clearin | Aug 7 2011, 11:45 PM Post #66 |
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Not having a choice? He did have the choice, he CHOSE to at the tournament :P @Ill Well honestly I just think such things are too big to overlook, that's why I personally see him as SSj2, I did try to give explanations about the lack of sparks (Even though they weren't my ideas originally) so I guess we can end it here, agree? Edited by Clearin, Aug 7 2011, 11:50 PM.
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Aug 7 2011, 11:50 PM Post #67 |
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Really cause i thought he was tricked into it so that yakon and spopovitch could be followed back to babidi? call me crazy but thats what i saw. Gohan was used, confusing the two issues doesnt change how gohan fights. The kais goaded gohan into changing into ssj2, he could have smashed spopovitch in base. |
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| + Clearin | Aug 7 2011, 11:52 PM Post #68 |
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Yakon? Gohan didn't even know about Yakkon until Goku fought him at Babadi's ship... Anyway he was asked to go into Super Saiyan, Gohan then chose to turn Super Saiyan 2. He wasn't fighting Spopovich by the way. Either way he can turn SSj2 by his own will, that's the main point =) |
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Aug 7 2011, 11:56 PM Post #69 |
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not a single thing you said related to what i said or meant, totally different answer for different questions, like i said, semantics. gohan was gonna smash spopovitch for hurting videl. Hmm, we must be following two different stories then, my bad. I guess everything else i said went out the window. My point wasnt to say that gohan couldnt physically change into ssj2, never did say it. |
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| + Clearin | Aug 7 2011, 11:58 PM Post #70 |
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Yeah we were talking about 2 different things then, all I meant was he could turn into it at will. But yes Gohan was gonna smash Spopovich, as a MSSj. |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Aug 7 2011, 11:59 PM Post #71 |
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We could go back and forth on this all day. So I guess we'll have to settle on disagreement. Agree to disagree as it's said. So, yeah, we'll end it here. |
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Aug 8 2011, 12:04 AM Post #72 |
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would gohan NEED to? not IMO, he would smash spopovich in base easily, just as easily as any car he stomps on the street. tosses like a hot wheel. spopovichs power is garbage and he only weighs 300 max, gohan would toss him like a rag doll. |
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Aug 8 2011, 02:38 AM Post #73 |
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Just to add a bit to the discussion without fully jumping in yet; I'm currently tracking through the manga to find instances in which Young Gohan did not have the electric aura, and I'll be honest, they're plentiful; even more so than I thought. I was expecting to find that maybe Super Perfect Cell didn't show sparks on a few panel, and then have people tell me that Cell wasn't an all-out Saiyan and that he would be null-and-void. As of now, I haven't even gotten to Super Perfect Cell... pic sauce... I stopped here, but I'll probably keep into it a little later. I think we all should strive to look harder into these debates... then again, I'd suppose that the argument now is that at least electricity was evident in Young Gohan's case where as none was shown in Gohan's fight against Dabra. I'd just hope that it's at least considered that electricity isn't as sufficient and necessary a trait of SSJ2 as it's hailed. |
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| + Pelador | Aug 8 2011, 02:46 AM Post #74 |
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But most of those pics do show electricty around him. The only ones that don't are ones where it's close up and where he's powered down after Cell's been teleported. So I don't really know what your trying to prove with these. |
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Aug 8 2011, 02:56 AM Post #75 |
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stated that. A lot of close up pics have electricity. So, a SSJ2 that's not a full power, may possibly be absent of electricity... interesting... stated that... Not claiming anything too significant, but it's something not to be ignored, just the same. Pics show that electricity isn't in every panel, and oftentimes, it's not shown for pages at a time. You yourself just hinted to a SSJ2 that's not at full strength doesn't have to generate electricity. That's about it for now. |
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