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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 31 2011, 11:15 PM (2,943 Views) | |
| shonen | Jul 31 2011, 11:15 PM Post #1 |
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Do you think vegeta would of gone down more as a way more awesome character if he died...say on Namek permanetly, or maybe Earth in his first battle with goku. I mean the character after that point just seem to be a jobber, set up to take beat downs from other people in order to make them look good...essentially equivalent to what DC/Marvel have done to gladiator, and darkseid. |
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Jul 31 2011, 11:37 PM Post #2 |
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I would have preferred if he beat Kid Buu but what would be better would have been to die for good against Fat Buu. I mean for real no comebacks. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Jul 31 2011, 11:49 PM Post #3 |
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I think being killed by frieza was the perfect death for him. The Tyrant that he had lived under his entire life killing him, and then the stoic vegeta finally crying, begging Goku to avenge him. Then the eries hero becomes the legend and defeats the tyrant of the galaxy. ...Nice |
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Jul 31 2011, 11:59 PM Post #4 |
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I'm sorry but that in no way is "great". How is being killed by your abuser of many years a great death? Only great thing would be him killing frieza and THEN dying at least with that he has some dignity left in him. |
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| + Clearin | Aug 1 2011, 12:02 AM Post #5 |
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Freeza let Vegeta go around destroying planets and murdering it's inhabitants which Vegeta LOVED, doesn't sound very abusive to me. I don't think Vegeta should have stayed dead but I wish he became like he was in the Kid Buu saga faster, in the Android or Cell saga. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Aug 1 2011, 12:04 AM Post #6 |
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To me he gained dignity when he told Goku that he might have been a better person if not for Freiza. That and admitting he wasn't pure evil. The crying thing didn't mean he was being a wuss. It meant he was mortal. |
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Aug 1 2011, 12:08 AM Post #7 |
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When you're raised in a environment like that with the punishments held tightly against you. I'm not surprised Vegeta did what he did. Is what he did "right" no way it isn't. But it shouldn't be seen as a shock or something of surprise. Especially considering he lost he's dad and home planet to Frieza. So I would say Frieza did a lot of "abusing" Vegeta. Be it Physically, Emotionally, or Verbally. |
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| + Clearin | Aug 1 2011, 12:11 AM Post #8 |
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I don't think it was implied Freeza physically or verbally abused Vegeta at all, and Vegeta didn't care about his father or his race, he said so right after Dodoria told him. Saying he only hated being "Used" by Freeza which doesn't make sense since Freeza was letting Vegeta do stuff Vegeta loved, it sounded to me like he hated the fact Freeza told him which planets to destroy rather than Vegeta getting to choose them himself... He seemed no more "Abused" than Dodoria, Zarbon or Cui. Edited by Clearin, Aug 1 2011, 12:11 AM.
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Aug 1 2011, 12:24 AM Post #9 |
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Fair enough, though I will say it does effect a child to grow up without a father let alone a home planet. The Profanity he said to Vegeta could have happen when he was under he's orders though. I see that as Verbal abuse. |
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Aug 1 2011, 02:52 AM Post #10 |
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I don't think any of the DBZ characters are abusive. Not like Chris Brown. If Vegeta stayed dead that early then I don't think he'd have time to gain so much rep. Just an opinion. |
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Aug 1 2011, 05:30 AM Post #11 |
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There would be also a lot of complaints that Vegeta should return. Eventually leading to belief that without Vegeta dbz is bad/not as good. In the end I'm happy that it wasn't the end for Vegeta. Makes for a happy scene and story for all. |
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| J-Smack | Aug 1 2011, 02:44 PM Post #12 |
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Cell/Android arc Vegeta completely irritates me. I think you'd have quite a few unhappy Vegeta fans, killing him off in the Frieza saga. A myriad of people go on and on about his character development. He was the villain who took the longest to become a good guy, and we all got to watch the progression when it first came out of Japan. We didn't see evil Piccollo really, since Z came before Dragonball outside of Japan (at least in the States.) Vegeta was sort of a continuing "B" story throughout ALL of Dragonball Z that kept us intrigued until the end. Sure, we would have liked for certain people to stay dead for more of an impact, i.e., Vegeta during Freiza or Buu, Goku during Cell, but, in the end, Toryama ended the story in a way that would allow it to go on in any direction our imaginations could take it. |
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Aug 1 2011, 03:15 PM Post #13 |
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I guess Vegeta was getting owned in the big fights every season. Hard to tell what Toriyama was trying to accomplish with the characters, but I guess it worked if were still talking about it in 2011, no? |
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Aug 1 2011, 04:32 PM Post #14 |
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Too bad one of the main points of DBZ is wishing people back from the dead. Would have made a better series if people have just stayed dead forever. No King Kai, no other world training, nothing. |
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| J-Smack | Aug 1 2011, 04:47 PM Post #15 |
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^^No Z... |
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