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Jul 29 2011, 07:22 PM Post #16 |
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How was it possible for Toriyama to let Toei Animation make GT suck just like that? |
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| Nusu | Jul 29 2011, 07:22 PM Post #17 |
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.
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I find it always amusing how people say it is so impossible for Son Goten to be that strong. Just look at Son Gohan when he was a kid. Son Gohan during the battle against Vegeta and Nappa, had a power-level of 981. Son Gohan could easily ***** everyone up, from the King Pilaf Saga straight to the 23rd Budokai. During the early Saiyajin Saga, Son Goku had a power level of 416. Too reach that level Son Goku, had numerous training and special help. Son Gohan reached 981 with Piccolo while being barely a decent fighter. So please, don't play the 'It's impossible' card. It is heavily implied that Saiyajin-Hybrids are extreme power-houses. |
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| + KingOfAllSaiyans | Jul 29 2011, 07:25 PM Post #18 |
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How come Future Trunks was never so strong? Even after training in the present timeline with Vegeta in the Rosat, he was still weaker than him. |
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Jul 29 2011, 07:26 PM Post #19 |
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Yeah, that's true. If Gohan was born that strong I guess it's possible for Goten/Trunks/Future Trunks to at least have a bit of an advantage. |
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| Nusu | Jul 29 2011, 07:40 PM Post #20 |
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.
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He was slightly behind, but not completely out-powered. Trunks though, still surpassed Vegeta's power level as a Teen and Son Goku's as well. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 29 2011, 07:43 PM Post #21 |
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Izanagi!
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Half-Breeds have amazing potential, shown by Gohan. Son Goten was born from Chi-chi and Goku. Since Goku was a Super Saiyajin at the time, that may be why Goten's so powerful as a kid and has the ability to transform. Same situation with Trunks. |
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| LionFangFist | Jul 29 2011, 07:49 PM Post #22 |
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ok but trunks is ALSO a half breed. but he's a half breed trained by vegeta and goten's one trained by chi-chi. im not saying goten should be weak, im saying he shouldn't be as strong as trunks |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | Jul 29 2011, 08:01 PM Post #23 |
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I seriously don't think Vegeta trained with his kid THAT MUCH. Vegeta says after the Cell Games that he's not gonna fight. And then after that I don't think he cared about Trunks anyway, he wanted to train properly on his own. Goten ended up always at the level of Trunks(nearly) because Trunks taught him stuff/sparred with him. Obviously you want to have a sparring partner who is at about your strength. Then just before the tournament Gohan trained him. Gohan and Goten were the same strength at the start of the training, so probably both gained from it an equal amount. Also Gohan gave him extra skill that Trunks couldn't give him. Even at the tournament though, Trunks was slightly stronger. |
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| Nusu | Jul 29 2011, 08:03 PM Post #24 |
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Son Goten himself said, that Trunks had always the lead over him because he is older. This could very well mean, that Trunks trained before Son Goten got into it. |
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Jul 29 2011, 08:51 PM Post #25 |
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Maybe even trained with Vegeta. Vegeta knows a lot more about fighting than Gohan. |
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| lunar2 | Jul 29 2011, 09:25 PM Post #26 |
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vegeta had only recently began training trunks when the buu saga started. it's not like he had years of a head start. |
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list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god | |
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Jul 29 2011, 09:42 PM Post #27 |
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How is it possible there wasn't any Zenkai boosts in DB? |
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| Kalea_The_Saiyan | Jul 29 2011, 09:46 PM Post #28 |
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good question! i was wondering the same thing! also how is it possible that there are 5/6 (depending on if you count future trunks) super saiyans when vegeta said that there was only one super saiyan every thousand years? |
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Krillin makes me laugh. Goku makes me cheer. Vegeta makes me scream. Gohan makes me gasp. And Piccolo makes me shut up. Spoiler: click to toggle | |
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Jul 29 2011, 09:56 PM Post #29 |
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Goku first in thousand years Gohan is son and under went extreme conditions in RoSaT Vegeta trained and followed Goku Trunks is trained my Vegeta. Future Counterpart is trained my Gohan and reaches SSJ level due to emotional distress and the "need" for the transformation. None of these could have been done had not strong villains threaten the earth. I think in my opinion the One thousand years tale was meant to say that every one thousand years trouble comes and threatens the Saiyan race. We see that with Frieza thus the transformation to SSJ is needed. Just a theory of mine no really evidence to back it up though. |
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Jul 29 2011, 09:57 PM Post #30 |
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Vegeta might have meant the LegendarySSJ. I think it's possible they could have been based off each other |
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