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If Goku never died vs Raditz
Topic Started: Jul 28 2011, 01:25 AM (5,084 Views)
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What do you think this timeline would be like?

If Goku were to jump off and survive the special beam cannon would Vegeta have destroyed the earth or would every Z fighter be killed?

And then what of the androids? Would Dr Gero still make them or as powerful?

I think a what if series of that would be cool just have the androids vs Frieza's army and him obviously winning then against Cell losing
Then after 7 years of training and probably absorbing people across the universe do you think Cell would stand a chance against Buu?
Be something cool to watch instead of just Goku all the time imo
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Well goku wouldnt get x10 gravity training which raised him to 5,000 and no kaioken and no spirit bomb. Vegeta kills everyone then goes back to being Friezas servant. Frieza will prolly hold child namekians hostage to get the elders to give him the dragonballs so he will be immortal. With Goku dead Gero's project would be for nothing and he prolly wouldn't even activate them.

He might continue with 16 because he wanted to make a fully synthetic robot (I think). Babidi wouldnt be able to gather enough energy on earth for buu so he would prolly leave and either forget about it or feel it's to feeble to even to want to conquer and destroy. So that's about it.
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Goku wouldn't have become powerful enough to defeat or even hold his own against the Saiyans, and he wouldn't have learned Kaio-ken so it really would have been a stomp.

Both Nappa and Vegeta would go back to their normal lives as Freeza's yes-men. Gero wouldn't make the androids because Goku would be dead. Freeza would continue conquering planets and eventually get to Earth. Inevitably, Vegeta would challenge Freeza, but he'd be laughably so much weaker than the Vegeta we knew of, so he'd be put down just like King Vegeta, and that'd pretty much be it. Boo wouldn't be reborn because there wouldn't be enough power on Earth, and I don't really know of any places other than Earth with such powerful warriors.
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Goku might of not known the Saiyans were coming and the Earth would be doomed.
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The Saiyans would never have found out about the dragonballs and as a result wouldn't have attacked earth. 5 years later, however, Gero's androids would've killed everyone.

Actually, that presents an interesting question: Was it ever explained in the manga why Goku didn't simply just grab Raditz's tail a second time? I mean, if he had enough time to put him in a full nelson...
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I don't see much changing really. Raditz spills the beans and they prepare. If Kami is smart of enough he'll allow Goku to train on King Kai while being alive.
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Jul 28 2011, 04:06 AM
I don't see much changing really. Raditz spills the beans and they prepare. If Kami is smart of enough he'll allow Goku to train on King Kai while being alive.
Can he do that? If so, he might as well bring the entire team.
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NO, he cant, kami got special dispensation from king yemma for goku ONLY, and only DEAD warriors get the training. King kai is a god, and kami is a spiritual entity, kami ASKED king kai and king kai let goku go, without kais permission and yemmas say so it wouldnt have happened anyways. Thats why gokus body disappeared. Most people probably wouldnt have believed he was dead anyways. In fact, it was because they died they all got to train anyways, so... is it possible for kami to have given goku a potion that would have put him in stasis while he trained in other world? Yes, thats more likely. Then goku could have trained for the whole time instead of less than 6 months.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

He would've been barely stronger then Piccolo. Without the Kaio-sama training, Son Goku would've gotten *****ed like the others.
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Ninjajp247
Jul 28 2011, 05:15 AM
kami ASKED king kai and king kai let goku go, without kais permission and yemmas say so it wouldnt have happened anyways.
Kami didn't ask King Kai. King Kai didn't even know Goku was coming or what he even wanted when he got there.
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If Goku had died Vegeta and Nappa may well have never come to the Earth, since they wouldn't know about the Dragon Balls.

If they did still go to the Earth everyone would be utterly defeated, all the humans would be destroyed and the Earth would be another 1 of Freeza's planets.

Eventually Majin Buu turns up and the universe is most likely done for.

edit: Unless kaioshin borrows Pikkon, and some other fighters from the other world to stop Buu being revived.
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Vegeta and Nappa don't go to Earth. Well, they might due to Raditz's death but I'm not sure.

The Jinzoningen attack the Z-Fighters and kill them. Cell is also laughably weak. Frieza would probably eventually come across the planet and seize it. Buu would be released and the Supreme Kai would enlist help from all of the Z-Fighters and Pikkon and such. They all fail and Buu travels the Universe destroying everything.

Vegeta and Nappa would probably be killed by Frieza.
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the Saiyans would have had no reason to go to Earth. Picollo only mentioned the dragonballs because Goku had been killed. If Goku had lived then he would not have said anything therefore, no Saiyans. I believe the androids would have had the same proportional amount of strength between them and the Z fighters. Making them as strong as they were in the android saga would be overkill. So it's possible that they could be released a lot sooner and that also means that Goku wouldn't get the virus before they appear.

So now the question is, how does he defeat them? He has no clue as to how powerful they are since he can't sense them. Chances are that he'd engage them in battle and be destroyed very easily. Remember he wouldn't even be able to go SSJ in this scenario. Unless he can escape and get to the ROSAT, he's probably going to be destroyed by the androids along with everyone else.

Then Cell will show up some years later, absorb the androids, destroy the Earth (also preventing Buu from hatching) and attempt to destory as much of the known universe as he can.


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I agree.

However, if the androids are released at the same time as they were in the main story, Goku would die of the Heart Virus and Trunks would never have been born to go back and give Goku the Heart Medicine.
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Jul 28 2011, 05:15 AM
NO, he cant, kami got special dispensation from king yemma for goku ONLY, and only DEAD warriors get the training. King kai is a god, and kami is a spiritual entity, kami ASKED king kai and king kai let goku go, without kais permission and yemmas say so it wouldnt have happened anyways. Thats why gokus body disappeared. Most people probably wouldnt have believed he was dead anyways. In fact, it was because they died they all got to train anyways, so... is it possible for kami to have given goku a potion that would have put him in stasis while he trained in other world? Yes, thats more likely. Then goku could have trained for the whole time instead of less than 6 months.
You would thinking being a God of the galaxy of Earth that it would be in he's best interest to help the Z fighters. If he didn't he wouldn't be much of God or a helper in any sense. Especially if the only thing holding the Z fighters back from defending their Earth is because King Kai feels the need to teach dead warriors and NOT living one's.
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