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How would you fix this plot hole?
Topic Started: Jul 27 2011, 01:42 PM (1,153 Views)
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In Future Trunks' timeline, we assume? that Goku used Instant Transmission to get to earth and defeat Cold and Frieza. However in Timeline 1, Vegeta, bulma, piccolo and the others all go out to meet Frieza. So Goku uses IT and defeats them and then i guess meets up with the others. Bulma however was with that group and Goku WOULD explain how he got to Earth via his new technique.

So Goku get's his heart virus, the androids attack and Bulma creates the Time Machine. Why wouldn't Bulma tell Trunks that Goku has the ability to teleport? Why would she make Trunks fight Frieza and risk altering the Future in a negative way (trunks not being born)?
One way to fix this would just to not have Bulma meet Goku upon his arrival but then we would miss out on the lols when Trunks tells Goku that Bulma has a kid with Vegeta
Edited by oodle, Jul 27 2011, 02:06 PM.
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Since Trunks had already come by the time Goku show everyone his teleportation trick, perhaps Trunks's arrival affected the timeline, making Goku show everyone teleportation when he normally wouldn't have. Even though he would have used it to get to Earth quickly, it doesn't mean he would have to explain how he got to Earth to the others.

Other theory: Bulma saw teleporation ONCE as far as we know. She could have forgotten.
darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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Yeah she could have forgotten about it, she could have simply said Goku killed Frieza and Cold (I assume that's who you meant, not the androids) and not how.

A bigger plot hole is this: Krillin has no nose, 5 chapters later he's getting a nose bleed and shooting boogers.
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Just seems like a big thing to forget. She is really fond of Goku.
She's about to tell Trunks to go to the past and stop Frieza, u'd think that would spring her memories of Goku and his arrival.

As soon as Goku arrived out of nowhere with no space ship, the others would fly over to greet him and they would ask how he got to Earth, Vegeta sure would.
Edited by oodle, Jul 27 2011, 02:11 PM.
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I just thought Trunks felt like killing Freeza.
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The easiest way i can think of right now to fix it is;
When Goku explains Instant Transmission to Trunks, have Trunks simply say 'why didn't my mother tell me you had that ability"
Then maybe have a scene where Trunks return to the Future and asks the question and she simply states that it was so long ago that she forgot all about it.
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Jul 27 2011, 02:05 PM
Yeah she could have forgotten about it, she could have simply said Goku killed Frieza and Cold (I assume that's who you meant, not the androids) and not how.

A bigger plot hole is this: Krillin has no nose, 5 chapters later he's getting a nose bleed and shooting boogers.
Yeah that one I'll never figure out.

wolffanghameha
 
I just thought Trunks felt like killing Freeza.

Question answered.

oodle
 
As soon as Goku arrived out of nowhere with no space ship, the others would fly over to greet him and they would ask how he got to Earth, Vegeta sure would.

They weren't looking directly at the battlefield once Trunks arrived. Goku could have arrived without them even questioning where he came from; he could have landed on a different part of the planet, and then flew to the battlefield.

darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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But couldn't they sense him arriving when he arrived in the Main timeline? There's no way he'd mask his presence until he got to Frieza.

And I wouldn't fix the plothole. I think that plotholes kind of give the anime an imperfect feel which I like.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Jul 27 2011, 02:33 PM.
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You're right; by that time they could sense powerful beings from outside the planet, meaning they should at least be able to sense Goku flying to meet Frieza on Earth. His power level would have been suppressed in the spacepod most likely. So, they wouldn't have sense him until he was on the planet.
If he landed decently close (in the hypothetical sense of him landing by spacepod), he could land out of sight and make it to the battlefield without much power output. Think of when he landed on Namek. They couldn't sense his power level, but he sure got to the battlefield quickly, and, at this juncture, Goku make move a lot faster than that.

Hope I was decently clear.
darkwarrior
 
has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

Y2J
 
Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



ObsessiveFanGirl
 
I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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J-Smack
Jul 27 2011, 02:49 PM
You're right; by that time they could sense powerful beings from outside the planet, meaning they should at least be able to sense Goku flying to meet Frieza on Earth. His power level would have been suppressed in the spacepod most likely. So, they wouldn't have sense him until he was on the planet.
If he landed decently close (in the hypothetical sense of him landing by spacepod), he could land out of sight and make it to the battlefield without much power output. Think of when he landed on Namek. They couldn't sense his power level, but he sure got to the battlefield quickly, and, at this juncture, Goku make move a lot faster than that.

Hope I was decently clear.
I'll concede, that's clear reasoning. He could've been surpressing it to the point that they can't sense him at all, which has been shown many times throughout the series.
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I thought it was explained that Goku would have gotten there in time if it weren't for Trunks appearing in the timeline; therefore, Goku wouldn't have had to use Shunkan Ido, and thus wouldn't have had to explain it.
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I dont remember right know, but did Future Trunks said that he mistaken the exact time of Goku's arrival and thats why he appeared 3 hours prior to it? Or maybe it was a mistake of the same machine.

Trunks decided to fight Frieza when he ordered his men to start killing earthlings, and since the other Z Fighters were heavily supressed he couldnt sense their ki.
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No seriously isn't it just that Trunks arrives, and Goku is like wow who's this? Then Freeza is dead/his ki is gone, so Goku doesn't care, since the other mysterious ki(and maybe he knew it was a saiyan) disappeared, so there was no longer a threat.


Basically-

Trunks is bored.
Goku is lazy.
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