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| Frostmourne | Aug 29 2011, 01:22 AM Post #31 |
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As far as I know , they are atleast not way weaker/stronger than eachothers. In my opinion Broly would win this fight , since it took a SSJ2 Teen Gohan to kill Bojack. Then Broly (Movie 8) would be killed as well. Then after his Zenkai he got stronger than a SSJ2. Broly would win this. It would be a close fight imo. I've been meaning to ask you , how do come up with some hard discussing fights :P Edited by Frostmourne, Aug 29 2011, 01:26 AM.
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Aug 29 2011, 01:23 AM Post #32 |
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In the Daizenshuu it says; Super Saiyan He transforms into a Super Saiyan, just like Goku and the others. Because he possessed high battle ability from birth, he is the owner of power that surpasses Goku's. So that establishes that SSJ Broly>MSSJ Goku (Buu arc) since this is said in the movie 10 bio (which is a 'Buu arc' movie). Then LSSJ Broly stomped SSJ2 Gohan NOT MSSJ Gohan. |
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Aug 29 2011, 01:30 AM Post #33 |
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you can say he stomped whomever you want but you cant prove it. so dont state it as fact until you can. You are also skipping over the fact that the translation means his power was DEEPER than gokus, broly was born with the ability to expand his battle power at an awesome rate goku had to work for it, it doesnt AUTOMATICALLY make him stronger in the same form, never says that. The owner of power that surpasses gokus isnt that hard to understand, brolys power is natural, gokus is not. also meaning that what comes easy to goku comes easier to broly, so that means he can do various things better, like access ki faster, recharge his ki faster and longer. Bulk up his body to match his ki weighted strength. All thses things he HAD to do in order to beat goku, who actually sacrficed alot of his power to remain smaller and achieve mssj. You can fanslate all about gohan all you want. he wasnt ssj2 nor was he drawn that way, toriyama had already changed mssj gohans hairstyle by that time and they reflected the look in the movie by stealing it, like they always do, refer to movie 8 for same thing. |
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| Mastered Super Saiyan 4 | Aug 29 2011, 01:33 AM Post #34 |
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Okay He had obviously gotten stronger but i doubt he would be as strong or stronger than Full Power bojack |
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Aug 29 2011, 01:49 AM Post #35 |
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Badabing!
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Actually Movie 10 was released before he changed MSSJ Gohan's design to look more like SSJ2 so that excuse isn't valid. |
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| Balthazor | Aug 29 2011, 02:00 AM Post #36 |
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I'm damn serious
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MSSJ Gohan was doing good against Bojack so I say Broly has a winning chance |
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| + Pyrus | Aug 29 2011, 04:01 AM Post #37 |
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The excerpt is pretty straight forward. I think you just don't like Broly being stronger than Goku in the same form because he never trained for the power like Goku did, which has pretty much been your argument in a lot of Broly topics. There's literally nothing to support Gohan being a normal Super Saiyan. The movie was made before Gohan's hairstyle change, and sketches prove Gohan was intended to be a Super Saiyan 2, as there are two forms depicted both in the movie and on the sketches. |
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Aug 29 2011, 04:08 AM Post #38 |
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Exactly. He disregards evidence in favour of his own bull*****. It's not the 1st time he has said this ***** in a Broly thread. |
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| Balthazor | Aug 29 2011, 02:44 PM Post #39 |
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I'm damn serious
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Not to mention there were two hair styles used in the movie so that we clearly know whether Gohan was SSJ2 or a SSJ SSJ2- the entire fight with LSSJ Broly Beam struggle-SSJ hair with the bang and a little bang The daizenshu also said somewhere along the line that Gohan was indeed an SSJ2 didn't it? |
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| crimsondarkness | Jan 1 2012, 04:18 AM Post #40 |
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Thats actually what i try to say in a lot of threads but some people try to downgrade LSSJbroly to as low as a frickkin' cell junior.
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Jan 1 2012, 08:23 AM Post #41 |
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As most would say Broly godstomps. FP Bojack is nothing to brag about. |
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Jan 1 2012, 08:40 AM Post #42 |
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no i dont like broly being stronger than anyone in the same form. And? i never took his power from him, he's just not as strong as people want to believe. what does that have to do with my argument? what does anything cocoman said have to do with this conversation? my own bull*****? get real, This cartoon has been translated and refixed almost as much as the bible. There is NO evidence cocoman, just your opinion, having kp agree with you doesnt make you right. So come off it. On the other hand i have broly being stronger than goku because his power is deeper and probably has a well as deep as gohans. Not saying much. But goku not being as strong as he could have been is saying alot. Its also possible he wasnt as strong as he was in the main universe against cell thanks to the rosat. Assuming gohan wouldnt find ssj without the rosat is asinine. |
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| Balthazor | Jan 1 2012, 09:18 AM Post #43 |
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A lot of Japanese DBZ experts and long time DBZ fans such as myself will gladly tell you your wrong Ninjap.Your argument or in this case "opinion" of Broly being weaker than Goku in each form is incredibly bias,with no evidence backing it up.Whereas Broly in RSSJ form could literally tank SSJ Vegetas kick,which MSSJ Goku can't do without flinching,hell even SPC had to guard himself against SSJ Vegetas barrage of Ki blasts and SPC is in another league. The movie was released right before Goku said Gohan was stronger than him I believe,so toei was still thought Goku>Gohan obviously at the time.So we now established that this movie has indeed post rosat SSJs in it. On to the next one,Movie 10 Gohan is SSJ2.Toei doesn't have any knowledge of Gohan getting weaker,Vegeta being stronger than Gohan,how strong the kids are,if Goku was ever coming back or how much Goku gotten stronger.So they assumed that Gohan actually gotten stronger since now he has he title as earths protecter.The Daiz is canon to the movies so it is a reliable source and can be used as proof to back up Movie arguments,ignoring valid source and information is bias as I said and it's also ignorant and some people then have a right to call you a troll.So I'd advise you to stop ignoring evidence and going into Broly threads and do what you're doing now. Toei also has a habit of not including lightning into their production post tenkaichi Gohan,so their movies will also likely be the same.Plus in movie 10 Gohan has been shown to have 2 different hair styles when he is transformed,the one with 2 bangs while he was in the beam struggle,and the one with only 1 bang which he had during hand to hand combat with Broly.Yet again these are facts using the reliable Movie source which is the Daiz. Let's rap this up. 1.The SSJs in movie 8 were post rosat,and that Gohan was weaker than the others do to Toei not not knowing how strong Gohan was yet. 2.Broly is indeed stronger than Perfect cell at the very least,he could take on a KKH at point blank range without budging,whereas Cells upper body was blown away. 3.RSSJ Broly is stronger than MSSJ Goku by quite a bit,he could tank SSJ Vegetas kick to the neck like it was nothing and continued walking towards Goku. 4.Gohan was indeed a SSJ2 during most of the fight against Broly.And that he was only a SSJ in the beam struggle 5, Movie 10 Gohan is stronger than his kid self,he was earths protecter,and since Goku was dead toei thought of him as the new "hero" of the series.So for all we know Gohan could be stronger or even far stronger than his kid self take your pick.So toei would give the same boost to Gohan as they usually do to Goku in the movies. |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 1 2012, 09:24 AM Post #44 |
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Wow, I've never seen you layeth the smacketh down like that, Bal. I can't say I don't agree with what you said, though. |
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| Balthazor | Jan 1 2012, 03:20 PM Post #45 |
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I'm damn serious
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Yeah,over here I'm the "cool" Balthazor. Pojo,well he's the "even cooler" Balthazor. |
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