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| Piccolo (frieza saga) fused with Kami & Nail v SSJ Goku (Post x100g training) | |
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| oodle | Jun 28 2011, 03:42 PM Post #1 |
 
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Pre the Zenkai he gained from rejuvenating after the Ginyu fight. TOPIC CHANGED (hard to find compatible fighters) Ok so piccolo fused with nail put him a little over a million. Let's say Pre-Fusion Piccolo is at 50k - 70k Post Fusion (w/ Nail) 1,150,000 So thats around around a 10x boost from the fusion. How much would the fusion with kami grant (multiplier wise?) Goku SSJ2 i have at 18,000,000 with the x4 SSJ2 Multiplier. Edited by oodle, Jun 28 2011, 05:46 PM.
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Jun 28 2011, 04:37 PM Post #2 |
 
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well, since its a reintegration and not an actual fusion im not sure if the rival boost for those two even work. But obviously kami is no slouch and piccolo has been training, thats what nail said, so you have to assume its true, piccolo did beat down second form frieza, easily, with kamis power added it would have been a blood bath, i think piccolo would have killed frieza if he could. With kamis power he would definitely would have been able to see 3rd form frieza easy. 100% 3rd from frieza? probably not. Even with it, piccolo's not getting anywhere near final form friezas PL. |
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| oodle | Jun 28 2011, 04:55 PM Post #3 |
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Did u perhaps mean 4th form and not 3rd form? Coz u wrote 3rd form 100%. I think Piccolo with these fusions might actually be strong enough to take out 50% final form frieza. Let's assume Piccolo's PL is 1,300,000,000 (I guess he did beat down 2nd form). He'd only need a 50x boost from kami, Yeah now that i think about it that is too much. ANYWAY this is where the PL's get stupid The androids saga I've read around and people like to put Piccolo at around 300-350million (pre fusion) So the kami fusion is obv. a lot stronger than nail fusion. Let's make it 25x (just as an example) That means Android 17 PL = 7,500,000,000+ Edited by oodle, Jun 28 2011, 05:17 PM.
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Jun 28 2011, 05:05 PM Post #4 |
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i menat 3rd form 100%, you know everytime frieza trasformed it was never to his maximum right? he always only let out just a little, frieza in his third form, wasnt powered up all the way, when piccolo made it seem like he was gonna handle third from frieza also, frieza powered up, piccolo couldnt handle that. Besides, frieza only has three other forms. 2nd form, 3rd from, final form, final form 100%. No way is piccolo taking 50% final form frieza. LOLMAOOO |
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| oodle | Jun 28 2011, 05:08 PM Post #5 |
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ZZZZZZZZZZZ I just realised that i forgot to add the two powers be4 multiplying. FFS Ok maybe not 50%, i guess that's too big a stretch. Anyway the multiplier from Nail is around 10x, the multiplier from kami is apparently far greater. He'd decimate 3rd form 100% and initial final form if the multiplier is >x10 (which is implied) At the maximum, Piccolo could be at least around 30 million (and that's being generous) Edited by oodle, Jun 28 2011, 05:20 PM.
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| oodle | Jun 28 2011, 05:44 PM Post #6 |
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Changed Topic, more reasonable fight now. The real topic imo is just how much a multiplier the fusion with kami grants. |
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Jun 28 2011, 05:48 PM Post #7 |
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vs ssj2 goku? you mean from the frieza saga? if goku was ssj2 in the frieza saga i could see a match up, cause then that would put gokus pl wayyyy down. But then again, even frieza wouldnt stand a chance. |
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Jun 28 2011, 06:40 PM Post #8 |
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Piccolo fused with Kami is automatically at Imperfect Cell pre human absorption level. Goku doesn't win here I'm afraid. |
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Jun 28 2011, 08:17 PM Post #9 |
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sasuke its ssj2 goku, of course he wins, what do you mean because hes preabsorbtion cell level? a super perfect cell couldnt stand up to gohans ssj2 let alone gokus. |
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Jun 28 2011, 08:23 PM Post #10 |
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No, this isn't ssj2 goku that we see normally. This is a supposed ssj2 goku that occurs right after goku's 100x gravity training in the space pod to namek. Suppose Goku turned ssj then and then went to ssj2 shortly thereafter. I still don't see him at kamicollo level. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 28 2011, 10:58 PM Post #11 |
 
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Base: 90,000 Super Saiyan: 4,500,000 Super Saiyan 2: 18,000,000 Piccolo (merged with Nail): 1,500,000 Piccolo (Nail + Kami): 3,750,000 Piccolo would lose in my opinion. The multiplier from Kami can't be larger than the one from Nail unless you think the androids were more than 2x as strong as the Super Saiyans in that battle, which isn't the case. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 28 2011, 11:15 PM Post #12 |
 
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Never really thought about it, what's the proof for either side? |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 28 2011, 11:55 PM Post #13 |
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When #18 is fighting SSj Vegeta, the others arrive to help and #17 thinks she might not be able to take them all on at once (lol). Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P1.1-3 Context: after Trunks, Piccolo, Tenshinhan, and Kuririn arrive No.17: “My my, some help has arrived. Even No.18 probably won’t be able to take them all on. No choice, shall I go? Or will you go, No.16?” I used to think #18 was far, far above Vegeta, but now I think she was only comfortably above him; enough to defeat him with little effort, but effort nonetheless. If she'd had to contend with all of them at the same time, I think they might've given her some trouble. So there's no way the androids, except for #16 perhaps, are anymore than maybe 2x the strength of the android battle Super Saiyans. |
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| oodle | Jun 29 2011, 02:15 AM Post #14 |
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Here's the problem i see with ur fusion number Nail said that if Piccolo fused with Kami that the fight would be over, now the Fusion with Nail granted around a 10x multiplier. Nail 42k + Piccolo 70-100k x 10 = around about the level Piccolo would've been at. So we have to assume that the fusion with Kami grants a higher multiplier than a x10, basically we have to assume its x20 a the minimum. Kami's PL is like 300. Let's just say Piccolo is at 70k (post king kai training). 70k + 300 x20 = 1400 (flat number is easier) But here's the thing, Nail said that Piccolo would probably win so it's gotta be like a x25 multiplier So we have a few other options, either Piccolo (post king kai's training) PL is far greater that what we all assume (in the hundreds of thousands) Even if it was it can't be a standard multiplier, there's something else going on with this fusion. Coz yeah i agree with u and the android saga PL's, Edited by oodle, Jun 29 2011, 02:47 AM.
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Jun 29 2011, 02:31 AM Post #15 |
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^^^^ except that like most others, nail didnt know about friezas other forms, its true, if piccolo did have kamis power he would have killed frieza before he could transform into something more dangerous, as it was he only had enough to hold him off. But its nowhere near enough power to hold against a ssj2 goku after 100x gravity training, his multiplier alone is too high. |
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