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SSJ2 Adult Gohan VS LSSJ Broly; Dragonball Z - Broly second coming
Topic Started: Jun 17 2011, 01:34 PM (12,768 Views)
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Lorik
Jun 17 2011, 05:37 PM
So I get it now... Broly had zenkai didn't he? Which is like a LSSJ2 who is like a SSJ --> SSJ2 right?
Yes, he had a zenkai. That's because his body was on the brink of death. And no, there is no LSSJ 2. Broly just had a huge zenkai.
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I still think Gohan was SSJ when he fought Broly.

SSJ2 Gohan wins this.
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i still know gohan was ssj2 and several times stronger than he was in the canon storyline. ssj2 gohan gets whooped again.

gohan's design in movie 10 was copied directly from his 25th budokai ssj2 design. later in the movie, he is shown with his mssj design. why would they use 2 separate designs, if he never went to ssj2?
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So does this mean : LSSJ3 Broly or SSJ3 Broly --> SSJ3 Goku?
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Lorik
Jun 17 2011, 09:56 PM
So does this mean : LSSJ3 Broly or SSJ3 Broly --> SSJ3 Goku?
i say far stronger but it is purely hypothetical.
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Well , concidering that a LSSJ Broly could take on a SSJ Goku or even a MSSJ , it's a huge chance that all of Goku's form would not be enough if Broly was on the same as Goku is now.
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Jun 17 2011, 10:13 PM
Well , concidering that a LSSJ Broly could take on a SSJ Goku or even a MSSJ , it's a huge chance that all of Goku's form would not be enough if Broly was on the same as Goku is now.
SSJ Broly is stated to be stronger than Buu arc MSSJ Goku so LSSJ Broly roflstomps.
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you guys have it confused, the topic is adult ssj2 gohan, the only adult gohan in the series is from gt. And there is no way in hell broly is beating down gohans ssj2 form in Gt.

gohan easily takes this.

lssjbroly movie 10= fpssj2goku=majin vegeta in a powered down state. he doesnt eat them by any means, they would be near equal in strength wether you give broly the advantage or not, from there goku and vegeta would proceed to whoop his a$$ and that will be the end, by then skill beats>power when you are equal. Broly cant take their final ssj2 forms just like that cocoman, sorry.
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Jun 17 2011, 11:31 PM
you guys have it confused, the topic is adult ssj2 gohan, the only adult gohan in the series is from gt. And there is no way in hell broly is beating down gohans ssj2 form in Gt.

gohan easily takes this.

lssjbroly movie 10= fpssj2goku=majin vegeta in a powered down state. he doesnt eat them by any means, they would be near equal in strength wether you give broly the advantage or not, from there goku and vegeta would proceed to whoop his a$$ and that will be the end, by then skill beats>power when you are equal. Broly cant take their final ssj2 forms just like that cocoman, sorry.
You say that Broly lacks skill but I haven't seen anything of the sort.
He might have had great brute force but he isn't reliant on it.
Anyway I see LSSJ Broly movie 10 as superior to the other SSJ2's bar post Z sword Gohan and i don't see anything pointing towards him not being their superiors.
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I agree as well. I have LSSj Broly weaker than you do, but, I have him a smidge higher than SSj2 Goku/Vegeta.
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Yeah I think some people get the idea that he is somehow less skilled that the other fighters just because he is shown to be so much stronger that the other fighters that he doesn't necessarily need to use too much skill to overcome them.
He was, after all, created by Toei to show an example of the so called Saiyan of legend who was born with the natural ability to fight.

edit: Hell i think Akira Toriyama even bought into it.
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like i said, even a difference of opinion doesnt matter in the power levels because the gap isnt high enough, at all. If your beliefs are true than the math cant be that different, no way can you have broly that much stronger for him to take it as he pleases, you believing he has any skill as a fighter tells me what level you are on concerning that type of thing. So ill comment no more. Goku and vegeta outdo broly by skill like most other people in the z universe, broly's fighting tactics werent superior in any way, just brutish.

Anyways, you guys can agree if you want but the pl's have no gap wide enough each way to not cause the other major harm, in other words, broly DOES lose, being on a level playing field will do to broly like it did lesnar, and kimbo slice. Maybe some reality from born and bred fighters can teach the "natural" the way. Experience always outdoes strength, I think final form (gt) piccolo could take broly too.
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Jun 18 2011, 12:36 AM
I think final form (gt) piccolo could take broly too.
GT is not really valid in this tbh.
All the characters are haxed to ***** and Piccolo was unharmed by a baby Gohan kamehameha so obviously he would be able to.
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Lorik
Jun 17 2011, 09:56 PM
So does this mean : LSSJ3 Broly or SSJ3 Broly --> SSJ3 Goku?
Well Super Saiyan 3 Broly would defeat Goku whereas a hypothetically 'Legendary' Super Saiyan 3 form would most likely dominate him.
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except gt numbers do apply, haxxed or not, i see no reason for their powers not to increase a good deal on gt, maybe not that much, but its not a huge stretch. Logically even gt goku should need his mssj to defeat broly. Although goku gt is as powerful in base form as he was in ssj3 eoz, im not sure if thats completely true, but at the lowest he would still be high tier ssj2 strength eoz IMo. Im also not convinced piccolos pl is haxxed in gt, he can beat broly; hes right where he should be, cause hes not that much stronger imo. gt piccolo=>lssj broly due to skill and a power gap, not wide enough for him to not get hurt by broly though.
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