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| Ussj Future Trunks | Jun 17 2011, 08:47 AM Post #1 |
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just adding to my watch through of the japanese version. it seems old kai didnt actually say ssj4 gokus the strongest being hes ever seen. and it seems like ssj4 goku has physical strength enough to toss an oozaru like a ragdoll. so much for gt being weak. oozaru baby doesnt need two shots to blow up earth. the first shot was never intended as a planet buster. but regardless his attack when in super baby form, broke the wall between dimensions. which means baby vegeta, by feats, is just as powerful as super buu. i said already that the "goku being impressed by a city buster" was debunked and the "goku cut by glass" hardly has merit. |
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"I am Lord Freeza, whom none surpass me; no one even comes close! BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation | |
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| Ussj Future Trunks | Jun 22 2011, 06:33 PM Post #2 |
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answering the super 17 thing, it seems the original 17 had the "power of hell poured into him". gero says hes been working on a second 17 clone for years and calls him the ultimate android. so hell clone 17 > perfect cell. the original 17 was said by gero to have tremendous power, greater than cell's but he couldnt control 17 so he supressed his power. this is backed up by the original manga saying 18's power was also supressed, to a greater level than 17s was. so 17s true power remained dormant since he killed gero. original 17 (hell power poured into him) > perfect cell. the additional hell clone was designed to unlock and supplement the true power of the original one and transform him into a perfect android. and for gero's motivation, its to kill all the earthlings who cast him out and made him work in the mountains. trunks states he recognises 17 because he has the "same ki as number 18", and practically guesses that he must be 17. but it seems others in the group know who 17 is but trunks doesnt, trunks doesnt even look like he was trying to fight, so i guess he pulled a piccolo and was stalling for information, it seems base gt goten beats pui pui in one shot, whereas base buu arc vegeta took alot of shots to win. base trunks also kills yakon in one shot. together they kill android 19. base saiyans in gt >>>19 and yakon and pui pui base gohan stands up to rildos punches just fine and even kicked back his rocket punch. not only that but he was dodging rildos punches just fine until his arm was turned to metal. vegeta states hell fighter 17 is equal to him. 17 = base gt vegeta > perfect cell gohan states he is enraged from the bottom of his heart. perhaps he taps back into his mystic power? |
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"I am Lord Freeza, whom none surpass me; no one even comes close! BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation | |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 22 2011, 08:15 PM Post #3 |
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It's hard for me to believe that Toei was smart enough to pick up on that, although maybe it was just a coincidence.
To be fair, Vegeta was clearly suppressed and toying with Pui-Pui because he thought Pui-Pui had more to offer. Goten took him out without hesitation if I remember correctly.
Wow, then Base Goku is more powerful than I thought since he handled SSj Bebi Gohan without even breaking a sweat, and I guess Base Gohan is more powerful than Kid Boo now (not that he shouldn't be).
Really? I didn't see him state that, but I'll take your word for it.
I always took that as an implication of Super Saiyan 2, since his Ultimate powers had nothing to do with rage. |
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| oodle | Jun 23 2011, 04:10 AM Post #4 |
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Uh i thought old kai said that Super Bebi Vegeta 2 was the strongest being he's ever sensed? Not ssj4 Goku. |
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| Ussj Future Trunks | Jul 5 2011, 09:46 AM Post #5 |
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nope. that is a complete myth. goku says super baby 2 is the strongest ki ever. but old kai makes no mention of power levels. "he handled SSj Bebi Gohan without even breaking a sweat" goku was fighting seriously. baby gohan was not. in fact baby gohan just smirked at goku's hits but that could be because he was just waiting for baby himself to show up in vegetas body. |
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"I am Lord Freeza, whom none surpass me; no one even comes close! BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation | |
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