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| The Saiyan God | Jun 1 2011, 05:25 AM Post #1 |
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So this is a little different. It's not who would win the fight but which attack will over power the other. Here is the scenario: Both are fighting on a deserted planet. Both of them are exactly 10 miles apart. Vegeta is in his Ascended Saiyan form ( first time in hyperbolic time chamber) and Goku is in his Full Power Super Saiyan form. Both have charged up their respective attacks for 4 minutes and have fired it at the same time. So which attack do you think would over power the other. Oh and when I am talking about the Kamehameha attack I mean the wrap Kamehameha attack (which Goku powered up for about 1 or 2 minutes or so but here he powers it up for 4 minutes) but he doesn't do the instant transmission combo with it this time. |
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| DanielSan | Jun 1 2011, 05:27 AM Post #2 |
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Uh MSSJ Goku is alot more powerful than first time ASSJ Vegeta so Goku's Kamehameha would win. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 1 2011, 05:30 AM Post #3 |
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Vegeta wouldn't stand a chance. If this was Base to Base or Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan with equal power levels, then there might be a debate, but this is a wicked stomp in Goku's favor. |
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| lunar2 | Jun 1 2011, 05:32 AM Post #4 |
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the final flash itself is much more powerful than the kamehameha. it's possibly the most powerful pure ki beam. i say pure ki because even though the tribeam is more powerful, it uses genki to boost itself, so it doesn't really compare. as for this beam battle, goku wins, duh. he's several times as powerful as vegeta, and just WARPED out of a potential beam battle. |
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| The Saiyan God | Jun 1 2011, 05:40 AM Post #5 |
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So according to you guys who would win if they were both in SSJ2 form
Edited by The Saiyan God, Jun 1 2011, 05:40 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Jun 1 2011, 05:40 AM Post #6 |
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Vegeta would troll the hell outta Goku. |
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| DanielSan | Jun 1 2011, 05:42 AM Post #7 |
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Vegeta would destroy Goku if their both SSJ2'S if we are talking about post majin though. |
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| The Saiyan God | Jun 1 2011, 05:42 AM Post #8 |
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Yeah I think so too. Because the final flash did look a hell of a lot more powerful than any Kamehaneha. |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | Jun 1 2011, 12:53 PM Post #9 |
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Why are you all so sure that the final flash is much stronger than the kamehameha? What's the evidence? |
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| Rockman | Jun 1 2011, 01:06 PM Post #10 |
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hoighty-toighty
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Much like any move except for the super hax'd special beam canon and Tri-beam attack, its power is dependent on the user. I think if an ASSJ Goku and Vegeta at exactly the same level created a power struggle with the two moves it'd end in a stale-mate. In which case they'd either jump out of the way or something. |
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| lunar2 | Jun 1 2011, 01:11 PM Post #11 |
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the galick gun is vegeta's equivalent to the kamehameha. why would he create another beam of the same power as the kamehameha? final flash =/= kamehameha, even when coming from equal fighters. |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | Jun 1 2011, 01:20 PM Post #12 |
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I can only remember the final flash being using 3 times. It was used on Recoome, Hatchyak and Cell. It probably was used on Buu too but I'm not sure. Cell got hit with both a final flash and kamehameha. When he got hit by the final flash it took off his arm and maybe some of his torso. Cell was quite relaxed though as he didn't expect Vegeta to be able to damage him, while Vegeta was at his maximum within the ssj grade 2 form. When Goku did a kamehameha it took off Cell's arms, chest and head. Cell was again surprised like with the final flash but he was actually in the middle of fighting Goku, so was bound to be more powered up than against Vegeta. Cell was very close to Goku though whereas he was far away from Vegeta with the final flash. Basically, the attacks did similar amounts of damage so it comes down to the gap between Vegeta and Cell, and Goku and Cell. Which gap is bigger? Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Jun 1 2011, 01:20 PM.
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Jun 1 2011, 01:27 PM Post #13 |
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Badabing!
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The only thing i disagree with is that it wasn't used on Recoome. Although the stance is similar, the only evidence we have of its name is in one of the games (im not sure which one but i think in a Budokai game). I am sure however it is not called final flash in the games. |
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Jun 1 2011, 02:32 PM Post #14 |
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you are right its called the final shine in the assj form for vegeta in tenkaichi 3. Its not the final flash until vegeta form 2 where he can go ssj2. as far as the original argument? really? an assj up against an mssj? the kamehameha depends on the user, goku does take a minute to charge but so does vegeta. In the same form and power it wouldnt be easy to eascape from, both of them would be majorly hurt, no way is the final flash as a move more powerful than the kamehameha, but when it comes to power, vegetas move is definitely more efficient to use, and convenient, alot easier to set up the final flash when you are holding your hands by your side screamining kamehameha. The words are ridiculous, but its always been the popular belief that the kame blast is the most dangerous, and im betting everyone uses it or at least knows it, even vegeta, but he would rather do his own thing, its obvious he got the idea of the final flash from taking pointers out of the kame move. Unfortunately for vegeta goku will always have the stronger ssj2 form (IF HE WANTED TO) but he chooses not to, he even powered down to fight vegeta evenly, so count on this being fair at least from gokus end. But its easy to be generous when you know youre gonna win. In the end i believe they would get hurt, if anything they would do this during training and get themselves a zenkai, making their ssj2 forms even stronger. No one wins this on an even level, but with the current standings? mssj gokus 4 minute charged blast would send vegeta to otherworld. Seriously... |
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Jun 1 2011, 05:18 PM Post #15 |
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What about the Big Bang Attack? That has to do something for Vegeta. |
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