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What level of Gogeta (GT) would be required to defeated Omega Shenron?
Topic Started: May 30 2011, 07:17 AM (2,855 Views)
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We know SSJ4 Gogeta was way stronger than omega shenron. So i was wondering could say base gogeta do the same job? Or would it require say ssj2 or ssj?
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Interesting question. Sorta like the Vegito fight against Buuhaan. I'd say SSJ3 just to be safe. Any lower and we'd be dismissing how strong Omega really is.
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I think Gogeta really did need SSj4. I don't think SSj3 Gogeta (GT) would be easily beaten, but, I don't think he could pull off the job and Omega definitely would have a clear and good advantage.
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Gogeta's Final Kamehameha or whatever it was didn't finish the job, and Gogeta even seemed surprised, so yes, I do think he needed Super Saiyan 4 to actually do the job.
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Well we can't really determined how strong he's other forms are. But we do however know that Goku and Vegeta fused as SSJ4's and not any other form. Reason being that SSJ3 might not have been enough or it could have just been because they were in SSJ 4 to begin with.
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May 30 2011, 08:46 AM
Gogeta's Final Kamehameha or whatever it was didn't finish the job, and Gogeta even seemed surprised, so yes, I do think he needed Super Saiyan 4 to actually do the job.
Big Bang Kamehameha is the one I believe. It was my understanding that Gogeta didn't plan on hurting Omega with the attack. I figured it was to just to scare him. The show off that he was.

I could be wrong.
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Goku's kamehameha dragon fist combo at SSJ4 was able to damage omega shenron quite a lot. If it wasn't for his regenerative abilities he would've been beaten. I think ssj3 could do the job
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Well in Z MSSJ Vegito could take Buuhan who was >> SSJ3 Gotenks.
I think this is due to the Potara method being stronger than Fusion dance and the strength of Vegeta/Goku>Goten/Trunks. I consider Omega Shenron being the Buuhan of GT with his so called haxed pl. It really depends how people think MSSJ Gogeta would have faired against Buuhan. As we can assume from the manga that base Vegito probably would not have been able to toy with Buuhan in the same way that MSSJ Vegito did.
However, SSJ4 Gogeta was toying around with Omega quite a bit so imo SSJ4 Gogeta>>Omega, SSJ3 Gogeta>Omega and theoretically SSJ3 Vegito>>Omega, SSJ2 Vegito>Omega.
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well, base gogeta >> ssj4 goku/ssj4 vegeta, by my numbers.

base goku 1
ssj4 goku 500
base vegeta 1
ssj4 vegeta 500

1 (goku) + 1 (vegeta) x 32 (my fusion multiplier) x 100 (rival boost) = 6,400 (base gogeta)

while omega shenron was extremely powerful compared to ssj4 goku and ssj4 gogeta, i don't think he was 13x as powerful. base gogeta could have done the job. mssj gogeta just to be safe. i think ssj4 gogeta actually was holding back with the big bang kamehameha, or maybe omega just can't be one shotted, because i just can't see omega shenron being thousands of times as powerful as goku and vegeta.
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The way i was thinking about it was something like this.

SSJ4 Goku (past limitations or whatever that powerup is called) was weaker than Omega Shenron, although he did manage to get 1 good shot in which was very damaging.


Now let's compare this with Z

SSJ3 goku is absolutely no match for Buu-tenks, Buu-han is ever more of a landslide victory, vegeta couldn't even go ssj3. If buu-han was fighting seriously, i doubt vegeta and goku at full power would be able to land a punch against him let alone damage him.
Ok now their fusion allowed a base vegito to have the advantage on buu-han, that is a massive power increase.

The power gap between SSJ4 Goku and Omega Shenron just doesn't seem to be as large as with Buu-han and SSJ3 Goku.
I think a base gogeta could do it.
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It looked like Gogeta put quite a bit of effort into that Big Bang Kamehameha, and even noted that it was impressive Syn survived. It seemed like Gogeta was actually trying to kill Omega to me.
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SS2. I see SS4 Gogeta playing with OS even lower then his SS3 Power level.
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May 30 2011, 07:55 PM
It looked like Gogeta put quite a bit of effort into that Big Bang Kamehameha, and even noted that it was impressive Syn survived. It seemed like Gogeta was actually trying to kill Omega to me.
actually gogeta did put some effort into it, but no way was it anywhere near full power, i think gogeta misjudged how resilient omega really was, thats all, didnt matter really, he was going to do it again when he ran out of power. Idiots shouldnt have broke the potarras.
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My SSJ4 Mutiplier is high than most it will be about the highest anyone will even see. But SSJ3 Gogeta is still stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Heck even SSJ2 Gogeta is near the SSJ4'S but lower though.


SSJ3 Gogeta 505

Passing limits SSJ4 Gogku 500

SSJ2 Gogeta 101

SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta 125

Omega Shenron 6,687
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Kamikaze Pyro
May 30 2011, 07:55 PM
It looked like Gogeta put quite a bit of effort into that Big Bang Kamehameha, and even noted that it was impressive Syn survived. It seemed like Gogeta was actually trying to kill Omega to me.
actually gogeta did put some effort into it, but no way was it anywhere near full power, i think gogeta misjudged how resilient omega really was, thats all, didnt matter really, he was going to do it again when he ran out of power. Idiots shouldnt have broke the potarras.
In the Japanese version, Gogeta said he was going to "finish this/it," so I don't think he would've taken any chances.
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