Mystic Gohan vs. Super Janemba

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Mystic Gohan vs. Super Janemba
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Majin Buu	Jun 5 2011, 11:39 PM Post #46
Posts: 36 Group: Member Member #6,316 Joined: June 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	I would say Ultimate Gohan but, Janemba has the entire Underworld evil in him, so he has Frieza, Cell, Buu, etc. But if I understand right, Ultimate or Mystic is beyond SSJ3 so Gohan might have a bit of an edge on Janemba.



Ussj Future Trunks	Aug 16 2011, 09:03 AM Post #47
God of Shinobi Posts: 2,540 Group: Member Member #5,050 Joined: July 20, 2010 Favourite Anime One Piece Favourite Manga Naruto	Quote: Gohan > SS3 Goku not in the anime Quote: Gohan destroys janemba not really. fat janemba > super buu so super janemba is probably buutenks level. goku states hes stronger than when he fought buu in movie 12 so toei hax goku is canon to it. Quote: but i think gotenks base can smash janemba nah underkill. janemba outclasses at least ssj1 gotenks in just his fat form. Quote: Meaning that ss3 goku movie 13 is the strongest ss3 pl character ever in Z. its more likely gohan was nerfed power wise. hes even weaker than gotenks it seems. Quote: The best explanation is that MSS Gotenks killed Fat Boo, and I'm guessing Gotenks just didn't burn out his time like in the cannon timeline and just went right after Boo except gotenks knows ghost kamikaze in movie 12 which means they HAD to have faced super buu or at least trained to face him. Quote: this is movie 13 goku he smashes janemba, because ultimate gohan is stronger than movie 12 goku we dont know how long its been since movie 12 goku fought buu. we know gotenks or gohan must have beaten him in that timeline. movie 13 gokus best move isnt going to be effective vs janemba. Quote: In the film with Janemba isn't it an alternate reality where Vegeta killed Buu? what suggests that? Quote: the big H was weakened (by a totaly stupid weakness..) so Goku won dub error. the only real "weakness" is that he was vulnerable when solidified and not teleporting. which ANY IDIOT CAN FIGURE OUT. Quote: movie 13 goku is haxed with the unstoppable dragon punch its stoppable if you dodge it or regenerate. nothing except a soul crusher from gogeta actually did lasting damage on janemba. plus the cube teleporting. Quote: Janemba wasn't that much stronger than SSj3 Goku anyway yes he was. he took no damage and basically played with goku, knocking him out of ssj3 in two minutes. thats faster than broly knocked gohan out of ssj1 in movie 10 Quote: but also because goku and vegeta were stronger in the manga/anime than they were in movie 12. this is impossible. not only do they have the more resilient dead bodies as gogeta, but goku is stated as stronger by his own comments about himself (vegeta stayed the same). Quote: he would have gone ssj3 if he could, imo. what for? he only fought hitler. Quote: because goten and trunks are still drawn the same as the buu arc, so movie 12 would have to be less than a year after that, i daresay 10 year old goten would look the same as 7 year old goten but thats just me. Quote: while anime continuity ssj3 goku is multiple times as strong as gohan nah probably a little stronger. remember the buutenks fight. Quote: movie 12 goku is an untrained goku that didnt kill majin buu where are these assumptions coming from? Quote: cause an untrained ss3 goku with low potential right now is the only thing i can think of that makes sense for janembas butt whooping on him or maybe he was trained and janembas simply just that strong. Quote: Then SS3 Goku is no where near strong enough to take on Ultimate Boo and he needs to fuse to have a chance, then in the next MSS Goku can knock Ultimate Boo back. he was ssj2 and buu wasnt at all hurt, just moved back a bit. Quote: all of a sudden Chibi Boo is the strongest of the Boo's nope. even in the anime. all goku says is that kid buu is on a different level to the others. i think he means in terms of regeneration, craziness and stamina. Quote: SSj3 Goku. Ultimate Gohan is way stronger than that and he doesn't have the high energy drain weakness of the SSJ3 form nope and neither did goku in that movie.
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Nusu	Aug 16 2011, 09:30 AM Post #48
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+ Pyrus	Aug 16 2011, 09:50 AM Post #49
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SirParagon	Aug 16 2011, 10:56 AM Post #50
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	This is more speculative than anything else, it's not like there's any hard comparative evidence which we can use to measure the strength of Gogeta. I would assume Gogeta is around 75% the strength of Vegeto due to the potara fusion being more effective. The huge power gap makes it confusing. My Approximations SSJ2 Vegito =====================================================POWER SSJ1 Gogeta ======================================POWER Vegito ==============================POWER Buuhan ========================POWER Super Janemba ======================POWER Mystic Gohan ==================POWER SSJ3 Goku (100%) ================POWER SSJ3 Gotenks ===============POWER Super Buu ==============POWER Kid Buu =============POWER SSJ3 Goku (low) ===========POWER Fat Buu ==========POWER Perfect Cell =====POWER Frieza 100% =POWER It's hard to make judgements, but Mystic Gohan would probably lose against Super Janemba. Edited by SirParagon, Aug 17 2011, 07:23 AM.
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Balthazor	Aug 16 2011, 12:57 PM Post #51
I'm damn serious Posts: 1,762 Group: Member Member #3,096 Joined: January 7, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh , Pokemon What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh ,Naruto	Gogeta=Vegito And Gotenks>>>>Goku imo
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SirParagon	Aug 16 2011, 01:49 PM Post #52
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Well remember Trunks and Goten really aren't that strong compared to their dads. Goku was only insistent on them fusing due to the whole 'Earth needs new heroes' thing. Goku being aware of fusion's limits and the approximate power of the boys was able to judge that they would easily meet the challenge after analysing Fat Buu's strength. He had no idea Buu would become stronger. As for potara vs. dance, I'm under the impression that potara fusion is superior in strength. The main reason being that neither person has to lower their power to match the other, so it's the fusion of both character's maximum potential. Goku was far stronger than Vegeta at that point. In other words, the dance requires even power levels, whereas it is implied that the earrings draw on everything. Edited by SirParagon, Aug 16 2011, 02:04 PM.
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Saberoph	Aug 16 2011, 01:58 PM Post #53
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Quote: Gohan > SS3 Goku not in the anime That actually depends on how you look at it, because the Boo arc contradicts it's self all the time and one could say that it's canceled out or outweighed by the times it's said Super Boo is the strongest non-absorbing Boo and Ultimate Boo is the strongest of them all. Because it was said more than once that Super Boo is the strongest, and what Kibitoshin said could be considered a throwaway line imo. So it depends on how you look at the Anime, because technically you could make it work that Super Boo is stronger. With me it's like with The Namek's comment on Majin Vegeta, it's a throwaway line because Vegeta went on and on about how he was superior to Gohan and in the Plane said he could easily win the Budokai and even after the no SS rule was set in place Vegeta was still confident about beating Gohan, because it was proven that Gohan got weaker.
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Wintergreen5000	Aug 16 2011, 04:47 PM Post #54
WCZE Posts: 1,954 Group: Member Member #4,914 Joined: May 26, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Naruto, Bleach What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I don't see how Janemba could be on Gohan's level. For one, even a presumable SSjin 2 Vegeta was able to give Janemba a little trouble, which is seems quite absurd if Janemba was on Gohan's level. Two, the anime filler is flawed and makes no sense because it contradicts the original teachings of the manga. So I don't attribute or associate Movie 12 with the anime filler because it's like trying to make two wrongs into a right, which I don't agree with, especially when Movie 12 need not be associated with the anime-filler. I see no reason to believe that SSjin 3 Goku in Movie 12 is the same SSjin 3 Goku in the anime-filler. Janemba is really no match for Ultimate Gohan, since he really didn't show himself to be much stronger than SSjin 3 Goku. I think it's very doubtful that he's even on Super Buu's level. Edited by Wintergreen5000, Aug 16 2011, 04:49 PM.



Frostmourne	Aug 16 2011, 04:59 PM Post #55
Lord of the Scourge Posts: 1,382 Group: Member Member #6,379 Joined: June 20, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonall Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Janemba is on Super Buu's level for what I've heard. So this fight would be just like Super Buu VS Mystic Gohan Gohan stomps.
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Nusu	Aug 16 2011, 06:50 PM Post #56
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Frostmourne	Aug 16 2011, 06:51 PM Post #57
Lord of the Scourge Posts: 1,382 Group: Member Member #6,379 Joined: June 20, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonall Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Nusu Aug 16 2011, 06:50 PM I don't have Janemba anywhere near Super Boo, so I don't know where that comes from. I know, I agree with you , but like most people says that Janemba is near his level.
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Nusu	Aug 16 2011, 06:52 PM Post #58
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Frostmourne	Aug 16 2011, 06:55 PM Post #59
Lord of the Scourge Posts: 1,382 Group: Member Member #6,379 Joined: June 20, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonall Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Well , people may just guess. Just like people put SSJ Goten at MSSJ Teen Gohan's powerlevel.
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Nusu	Aug 16 2011, 06:56 PM Post #60
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