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| Nusu's corner: Movie 8 Trunks Post-RoSaT. O_o | |
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| lunar2 | May 17 2011, 01:40 PM Post #16 |
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uh. no. neither vegeta nor trunks used ssjg2 in movie 8. they were both regular ssj. |
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| Nusu | May 17 2011, 02:54 PM Post #17 |
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Neither Vegeta nor Trunks were ASSJ. Look at Trunks's hair, they are exactly the same hair he has during the Cell Arc when SSJ. Vegeta just seems buff, when he fight's Broly and gets knocked out, there is no muscle decrease or hair decrease. The only logical thing to say here is: They were Post-RoSaT 2nd. |
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May 17 2011, 03:19 PM Post #18 |
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Does no one hold the belief that Goku and Gohan came out of the Rosat before it was over? Like had if Vegeta or Trunks killed Semi Perfect Cell rather then let him become Perfect? |
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| Nusu | May 17 2011, 03:50 PM Post #19 |
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Then you need to give an explanation why Goku and Gohan should stop their training. There was more then just beating Cell behind Goku's training with Gohan, and why Vegeta and Trunks are using the SSJ instead of the ASSJ or even USSJ. |
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May 17 2011, 04:03 PM Post #20 |
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Because they figured out that it was a useless transformation on their own. Why wouldn't Goku and Gohan come out? Only to be stronger? This is not need in a time of peace. Mr Popo could gadly drag them out of the rosat if need be. |
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| Nusu | May 17 2011, 05:00 PM Post #21 |
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1) When Vegeta is using the SSJ it should actually indicate that he already saw Goku as MSSJ, and is trying to get the form to be his natural state. 2) Same goes for Trunks, I don't see a reason why they should use the SSJ when they could use the ASSJ or the USSJ which makes them actually stronger. 3) Goku would not just leave the RoSaT without being done with his training, it's like saying the Saiyan's are dead we can wish Goku back now, and Goku would suddenly stop the training on Kaio's planet. Goku never stopped a training, especially not such an special one were they actually have a chance to train in the RoSaT. 4) Also, when Goku would come out during Mid-RoSat, I imagine him using the ASSJ also similar to Vegeta. 5) Goku trains during peace, he dosen't slacks off. I still don't see why they should come out. |
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| Sam | May 22 2011, 08:50 PM Post #22 |
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I still say they were SSjG2 because of the clear muscle expansion on Vegeta and Trunks. |
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| Nusu | May 23 2011, 06:17 AM Post #23 |
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This muscle expansion though, is also on base Vegeta. Look at Vegeta when he gets knocked out by Broly, the muscles don't change back and neither do the hair. |
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| + Pyrus | May 23 2011, 08:10 AM Post #24 |
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Vegeta was just super buff the whole movie. He never got any more buff or less buff through transformations. |
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| SupahSaiyajinGoku (Pre Rosat) | Jul 11 2011, 11:22 AM Post #25 |
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well how bout this why did future trunks's capsule corp blue outher garment ripped off when he transformed into a super saiyan against broly? that should not happen because when he transformed as a super saiyan against mecha frieza or the androids or by helping vegeta fighting the androids or fighting post yardrat goku he's blue capsule corp blue thingy didn't rip off..... well one single explanation he went ASCENDED super saiyan. Super Saiyan does not increase muscle size that much but Ascended Super Saiyan does just too add up you guys said that after the 2nd post rosat trip vegeta and trunks never used assj. hahahahaha! Edited by SupahSaiyajinGoku (Pre Rosat), Jul 11 2011, 11:25 AM.
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| Nusu | Jul 11 2011, 01:37 PM Post #26 |
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Well, my whole first post was actually based on the look Trunks has, not on the form he uses. ![]() Yes, he has a bigger triceps and biceps compared to Son Goku. So you say, just because Trunks uses the ASSJ in the movie, the movie suddenly does not play in the time line? I love how people use the 'Form Argument' in a DBZ Movie, everyone with enough knowledge of DBZ should know that the movies often defy the logic of manga and even the anime. Vegeta used the ASSJ during the Cell Games against a Cell Jr. despite the fact that he didn't even use the Final Flash nor the ASSJ in the Manga. Toei isn't very good with following the Manga especially in the Movies, and you should know that as well. I think some of you should rather look at the art, rather on the forms they use. I can easily come up with a theoretical theory build upon evidence that could back up Trunks being Post-RoSaT. Son Gohan has his Post-RoSaT hairstyle, and Trunks has his long hairstyle. When Son Gohan came out of the RoSaT, Trunks had his short hairstyle because Bulma cut his hair. When Trunks went into the RoSaT he had a long hairstyle again. Indication? Trunks is Post-RoSaT. And with this simple theory I backed my point of view up. I could've used this little text, and everybody would've understood my theory. But hey, sorry, I made the idiotic statement with Trunks being SSJ being a important factor of my theory. ![]() |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 11 2011, 02:54 PM Post #27 |
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I agree with you, Nusu. Trunks's long hair is a definite point that he was post-RoSaT. |
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| Nusu | Jul 11 2011, 05:03 PM Post #28 |
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Indeed, it is a strong point. I also wanna add, that Trunks being most likely ASSJ isn't necessarily a disprove to the Post-RoSaT theory. Vegeta was easily knocked out as SSJ, but Trunks? He was at least able to keep up with Son Goku and Son Gohan. So him being ASSJ may not be a mistake at all, maybe Toei even knew that Trunks was inferior to Son Goku and Son Gohan. |
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| SupahSaiyajinGoku (Pre Rosat) | Jul 12 2011, 07:04 AM Post #29 |
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in my opinion broly the legendary ssj is not cannon. so i think vegeta and trunks are post rosat first rosat |
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| Sam | Jul 12 2011, 08:07 AM Post #30 |
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Post second. Based on evidence, you cannot say otherwise. |
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