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| Did goku die or not?; why the confusion? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 8 2011, 05:17 PM (30,760 Views) | |
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May 8 2011, 05:17 PM Post #1 |
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at the end of Gt it was almost pretty clear goku was unconscious when shenron gave him more energy to stand up. or did he? why is it goku automatically went with shenron citing he "knew it would end like this" vegeta chases him over and accuses him of going to train with shenron. they take off to go meet krillin and roshi. He spars krillin for a few seconds but disappears when krilling blinked. Roshi knew what happened though, he wished goku safety on a long journey, with roshi being immortal he knew he would see goku again, however, back to the scene with gokus family, pan runs over and picks up gokus clothes. WTF?!! pan makes a captain obvious comment with vegeta affirming what she says. Goku merges with shenron before they fly away. So is goku immortal in GT becoming an entity for justice or what? what the hell happened? |
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| lunar2 | May 8 2011, 07:15 PM Post #2 |
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goku never merged with shenron. shenron just hid the dragonballs inside him, while they recovered. vegeta never asked if goku was going to train, that was a dub error. what he said, iirc, was "kakkarot, you're not..." to which goku replied "shh." training wasn't mentioned at all. |
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| Nusu | May 8 2011, 07:17 PM Post #3 |
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.
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Unknown. Goku was seen in the last GT episode with Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. fighting and was basically alive. Though, if you count the special he is obviously some sort of Ghost. |
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| Tim | May 8 2011, 07:42 PM Post #4 |
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I think it's more likely that he went off and that was that. As he'd said earlier it was time to pass things onto the new generation. Maybe that was more a quick visit, but I doubt it would mean much. I think for all intents and purposes he could be considered dead at that stage. ~Tim |
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| Nusu | May 8 2011, 07:46 PM Post #5 |
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.
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That's why I said it is unknown what happened to him after he flew away. I may agree, it might've meant that it is time to move on, he probably just went there to see that earth has some new heroes now, and he isn't needed basically.
Edited by Nusu, May 8 2011, 07:48 PM.
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| Saberoph | May 8 2011, 07:58 PM Post #6 |
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My belief has always been that Goku took the the Dragon Balls within himself to purify them. Now what I like to believe is this... Goku took the Dragon Balls within himself to purify them, and lives on the Planet of the Kaioshins, and has to stay there until they are purified. The DB's did make Goku stronger, but I like to think Goku can't access SS4 because the power would be too great. That might be a little out there, but that's what I believe happened to Goku, that and that Goku didn't die, it was just the power of the Lord of Lords. Edited by Saberoph, May 8 2011, 08:12 PM.
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | May 8 2011, 08:41 PM Post #7 |
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When he is seen in the GT thing with Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr maybe he was just there for a bit but still dead like in the Bojack movie or when he's allowed to go back to the living world/his home planet of Earth. Do Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr know that their grandparents were the universe's saviours? Off-topic just wondering. |
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May 8 2011, 08:41 PM Post #8 |
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well, its obvious goku had alot of friends in the other/underworld, but i dont think he couldve died, i think he ascended, hence my asking if he became an entity. Its possible, if goku had died he would have died like he did all those other times. Shenron decided to bring him along for some reason, even the japanese dub mentions goku coming back if no other hero is found, so i guess he has a job as a kami? Gotta love porunga huh? strongest dragon out there, can do whatever he wants, grants 3 wishes? the namekians are scandelous for trying to keep that secret. he has become earths protector in the true sense of the word, and since hes ascended has a job that takes him across the universe, maybe he was out there chillin when he sensed goku jr's ssj powers, he even tells him in the japanese dub, that ive been watching you and havent been excited till now. If anything goku would want to train goku jr, and probably will after pan finally dies. No i dont think gokus dead, hes become like....the spectre or something like that, but just for the earth. Edited by Paikuan extreme, May 8 2011, 08:45 PM.
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| * Kid Buu | May 8 2011, 11:13 PM Post #9 |
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I feel sleepy
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You know this is a very good question, i did often wonder to my self why is he going with shenron where are they going? why were the dragon balls placed in him?.. well i figured since goku didn't die and they had successfully beat omega shenron, gokus time was up he could finally take a long good rest.. watch from the heavens as he grows back up. well then i thought what happened to the dragon balls? maybe they were placed in goku so he could protect them or maybe they were no longer needed? ahh you never know this could go 1000 ways.. but i'm sure everyone has there own theories.. |
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| lunar2 | May 8 2011, 11:27 PM Post #10 |
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the dragonballs cleanse themselves over the course of one century. goku shows up after 100 years. coincidence? i don't think so. he was just protecting the dragonballs while they cleansed themselves. |
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| Saberoph | May 8 2011, 11:38 PM Post #11 |
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I think that's the other reason the Dragon Balls were absorbed by Goku. But I also believe Goku having such a pure heart had more to do with Goku protecting them too. |
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May 8 2011, 11:53 PM Post #12 |
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so goku is acclaimed protector of the earth and the dragon balls? that maes sense, but does that make him an entity? he had no age after 100 yrs. looked about 25 |
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| Saberoph | May 8 2011, 11:58 PM Post #13 |
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I don't believe Goku ages while the Dragon Balls are cleansing within him. |
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| lunar2 | May 9 2011, 01:00 AM Post #14 |
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it's got nothing to do with the dragonballs. have you already forgotten his 1000 year lifespan from old kai? he'll be about 995 before he starts showing any age. |
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| * Kid Buu | May 9 2011, 01:15 AM Post #15 |
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I feel sleepy
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i didn't know he got a 1000yr life span from kai? do you know what episode or saga this was in? i'de like to check it out |
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