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May 4 2011, 11:49 PM Post #1 |
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As we know from the Frieza vs Goku base fight, Goku fought while in kaioken without it making any visible, physical changes (up untill x20). Does this mean that near enough every other fight Goku has in the series while in his base form from then on (i know there is not many but Uub springs to mind at eoz) is he using the kaioken? |
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| sonic_the_frog | May 5 2011, 12:01 AM Post #2 |
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no he's just unleashing the kid buu inside him |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | May 5 2011, 12:04 AM Post #3 |
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Sonic you misunderstood him. He meant maybe Goku was using kaioken against Uub. |
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| + Pyrus | May 5 2011, 12:26 AM Post #4 |
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Goku wasn't using an invisible Kaio-Ken. That's absurd. |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | May 5 2011, 12:33 AM Post #5 |
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I swear he was. |
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| DanielSan | May 5 2011, 12:45 AM Post #6 |
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Kaio ken is always red when used. Even at x2. His hair and build may stay the same at the lower ones but his aura will be red and his body is also red when used even at x2. |
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| + Pyrus | May 5 2011, 01:08 AM Post #7 |
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No aura = no Kaio-Ken. It's that simple. It works in bursts, as stated by Goku (and Kaio, I think). Goku used a prolonged Kaio-Ken for demonstrative purposes against Ginyu, but he couldn't fight with it. He could not have been using an invisible Kaio-Ken against Freeza. It doesn't make sense with given statements and would go out of whack with the levels we're given. |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | May 5 2011, 01:47 AM Post #8 |
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But one time he's getting beaten by Freeza I think, and someone says why doesn't he use kaio-ken and someone else probably Piccolo says that Goku has been using it already. I think he was using it in really quick bursts maybe so it couldn't be seen but it could be sensed. |
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| + Pyrus | May 5 2011, 02:38 AM Post #9 |
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Chapter: 312 (DBZ 118), P14.2-5 Tenshinhan: "There’s nothing to worry about. Goku will win this match…Aren't you forgetting about the Kaio-ken? As he is now, Goku is able to endure a maximum of up to about 10 times his power, right?" Kaio: "Unfortunately... That Ten-Fold Kaio-ken is what Goku is using now..." Goku was using the Kaio-Ken x10 prior to Kaio's statement, so there's nothing wrong there. There's still nothing at all to support the invisible Kaio-Ken theory. |
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May 5 2011, 06:18 AM Post #10 |
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In the anime we see that he was using it "invisible" right after that statement by King Kai. Though during the actual fight we didn't see any red aura around Goku. So it's impiled like most fights in the Namek saga it was going to fast for us to notice. At least that's what I always got from it. @Topic I doubt the Kaioken is even used after the SSJ transformation is found. It's totally been outdated. It's like using a windows 98 in this era. It's so outdated you're better off using your phone. |
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| Noir | May 5 2011, 08:23 AM Post #11 |
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I started a thread about this about a month back and some people said he just didnt use it because his body wouldnt be able to handle it at ssj while some said he didnt use it because it wouldnt do much help at the power a ssj is already |
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| + Ryebrid | May 5 2011, 09:07 AM Post #12 |
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I just think that the speed of the fight was to quick to see it. Because before when Goku was fighting Recomme, Burter and Jeice, he couldnt even be seen. |
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| Warrior-Elite | May 5 2011, 10:41 AM Post #13 |
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I personally think there was no need to use it after goku turned ssj. |
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May 5 2011, 03:01 PM Post #14 |
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@Kamikaze what is absurd? In the Frieza fight King Kai states that he had been using the Kaioken all the long in the fight even though it had no red aura. |
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May 5 2011, 03:04 PM Post #15 |
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Yeah i suppose when you have ssj there isn't much use for Kaioken BUT i just find it hard to believe that, even though Uub hadn't mastered his ki, Goku was able to out class him in Base that's all. |
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