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Great Ape Transofrmation; Moon power!
Topic Started: May 3 2011, 07:31 PM (1,304 Views)
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So I don't really get it...

Vegeta explained how they turn into the great ape, because Sun bounces of the moon or whatever, so I don't understand how did Gohan transform when Piccolo destroyed the moon. Goku's space flying thingy just made a holographic projection in the sky and not a solid mass for the rays to bounce of from.

So, can anyone explain this to me?


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wasn't tat filler? if so, don't worry too much about it. if not, the machine probably produced it's own blutz waves.

yeah, it's just filler.
Edited by lunar2, May 3 2011, 07:50 PM.
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Didn't the moon return or some crap?
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Nope, it was just a holographic moon from Goku's space pod.
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it was filler, it doesn't need to make sense. especially since it contradicts the manga, not only on the moon issue, but on goku's ship as well. piccolo destroyed goku's ship in the filler, but dr. briefs used most of the parts from the ship to build the one that goku went to namek on. also, raditz ship withstood a beating from pl 710 gohan easily, but goku's ship couldn't take pl 408 piccolo's blast?
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Dr. Briefs played lego's with Goku and Raditz's ship to build the larger one. :p
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lunar2
May 3 2011, 09:05 PM
it was filler, it doesn't need to make sense. especially since it contradicts the manga, not only on the moon issue, but on goku's ship as well. piccolo destroyed goku's ship in the filler, but dr. briefs used most of the parts from the ship to build the one that goku went to namek on. also, raditz ship withstood a beating from pl 710 gohan easily, but goku's ship couldn't take pl 408 piccolo's blast?
Piccolo at that point had a higher PL than Raditz arrival Era.
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So, training on his own for six months and a few nights with Gohan his PL had already raised that high?

His PL would have shot up from him Training Gohan.
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In dbz the moon must make a certain type of wave when sunlight/radiation from the sun reflects off it(the blutz waves). The light sphere thing Vegeta throws in the air must just create and emit that type of wave itself from within itself, or by altering light/energy that passes through it.
Same for the thing from Goku's ship.

That's how I think of it anyway.
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Straying off topic here but i side with Saber here.
Maybe we can make up some bs that Piccolo had managed to fully utilize his Special beam cannon by that time (that is the only plausible reason i could think of.)

ps correct me if it wasn't a sbc attack. I haven't watched the eps in-between Raditz and the arrival of Vegeta and Nappa in a while.
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doesn't matter either way. filler is filler. and it contradicts the manga, because in the filler piccolo destroyed goku's ship, but in the manga the ship was rebuilt using several of the original parts so goku could get to namek.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Well of course it's filler and doesn't make sense, we all know filler isn't suppose to make sense, it's just there to buy time until the next issue of the Manga to be released.
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Aside from the fact that the ship should not have been in working order at the time, it's perfectly logical. Saiyans heavily depended on their ape transformations for their planetary conquests, and given the sophistication of their technology, it should have been entirely feasible for their scientists to develop technology to simulate the effects the moon as a safety precaution in case a planet lacks a moon or its inhabitants destroy it in anticipation of a Saiyan raid.
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so then why didn't Vegeta simply made a moon with his ship instead of going through all that trouble make his own when he was fighting Goku?
Edited by Llama Cash Machine, May 4 2011, 12:24 PM.
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Saberoph
May 3 2011, 11:28 PM
So, training on his own for six months and a few nights with Gohan his PL had already raised that high?

His PL would have shot up from him Training Gohan.
Yes, it rose from training alone as Piccolo can do the Multi Form technique to train, etc, etc.
I have him at that point around the 800 - 1000.
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