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| Who was stronger, Androids 19 & 20 or Frieza? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 30 2011, 08:16 PM (6,090 Views) | |
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May 1 2011, 02:42 AM Post #16 |
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So what makes you think Vegeta got past Piccolo then? If he was below him before and they both trained? |
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| Doctor Know | May 1 2011, 02:51 AM Post #17 |
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Don't forget the last zenkai Vegeta received after Krillin shot him and Dende healed him. Vegeta was able track some of 4th form Frieza's movements and see move Frieza executed that Piccolo, Gohan or Krillin could see. Recall Piccolo was very surprised at Vegeta's power increase before he engaged Frieza. |
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May 1 2011, 02:59 AM Post #18 |
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That is true then. So that gave him the bump up above Vegeta? |
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| lunar2 | May 1 2011, 03:24 AM Post #19 |
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1. it is never stated anywhere that saiyans gain power faster than other races. 2. the stronger you get, the slower you improve, meaning that weak people tend to catch up with strong people. 3. piccolo has already been shown to far outstrip goku's improvement, given the same training: goku goes from 416 to "over 8,000" in 78 days on king kai's planet. that's a roughly 20x increase. piccolo goes from 2,500 to far stronger than nail in 6 days on king kai's planet. nail is 42,000, so going by the 30% rule, piccolo is 54,600 minimum. that's nearly a 22x increase in 6 days, compared to goku's 20x increase in 78 days. sorry, but namekians tend to grow faster than saiyans, not the other way around. |
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list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god | |
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| + Pyrus | May 1 2011, 04:15 AM Post #20 |
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It was one year plus the 130 days between Namek and wishing Tenshinhan back. Piccolo and Vegeta were both stated to be training that whole time.
That still doesn't explain why Piccolo was so confident in fighting someone he thought could defeat Trunks. Edited by Pyrus, May 1 2011, 04:15 AM.
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| Perfect Frieza X | May 9 2011, 04:38 AM Post #21 |
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Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure Frieza would dominate both of em. Especially if it's Mecha Frieza. |
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| NeoSSayajin | May 10 2011, 10:41 PM Post #22 |
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If the Androids were around the 1.000.000 - 10.000.000, 19 wouldnt have pested heart virus affected SSJ1 Goku which was around 300.000.000 but decaying due to his sickness. I have the Androids between post Namek SSJ1 Goku and weaker SSJ1 Goku Android Saga, around the 170.000.000 and 220.000.000. Going by this, they are still stronger than Frieza in Namek and later with cybernetic enhancements. My hypothesis for Piccolo having that big increase is that his fusion with Nail (another elite Namek warrior) made him earn more capacity. Edited by NeoSSayajin, May 11 2011, 12:38 AM.
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| lunar2 | May 10 2011, 10:44 PM Post #23 |
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or, he was simply training with ssj goku, as was shown on a manga cover, iirc. stronger opponents yield faster increases. |
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