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| lunar2 | May 3 2011, 05:05 AM Post #46 |
 
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because i'm watching the episode as i post. so, baby dodged a hit, and the next one that connects is a sucker hit? no. majuub didn't get any sucker hits on him, that was a fair blow. saying otherwise is simply making excuses against the evidence placed against you. majuub > super 2 baby vegeta. ga goku > super 2 baby vegeta. |
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| Saberoph | May 3 2011, 05:16 AM Post #47 |
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That's why I said they could also be equal. Also just because Majin Oob got one kick in means he's stronger. Edited by Saberoph, May 3 2011, 05:20 AM.
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| lunar2 | May 3 2011, 05:20 AM Post #48 |
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so, because he swung his leg out wide, it's a sucker hit? come on. their in meleeand majuub didn't move, baby ought to know where his limbs are at all times. unless, of course, you're saying that majuub is so fast that baby can't follow his movements? |
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| Saberoph | May 3 2011, 05:24 AM Post #49 |
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I actually just wanted to see what you were gonna say on that one. Don't ask why, but I did. Also just because Majin Oob got one kick in means he's stronger. Besides really, Baby didn't have a chance to get a hit in, during his blocking he didn't understand where all this came from, so really the evidence really isn't conclusive enough to tell us there Majin Oob is. At least that's what I've always thought, from the first time I saw the fight. |
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| lunar2 | May 3 2011, 05:27 AM Post #50 |
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except he did know where it came from. majuub told him before he powered up to fight. there was no question as to where this power came from. and again, only one hit was actually landed, but majuub still dominated that entire fight, until the beam struggle that he intended to lose. night. i'll finish this in the morning. Edited by lunar2, May 3 2011, 05:30 AM.
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| Saberoph | May 3 2011, 05:31 AM Post #51 |
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No, he said it after the blocking. Only Baby said something before Majin Oob powered up. Even in Episode 32 when Majin Oob goes to meet Baby, he never says anything about him and Boo merging he only says "I won't die until I've defeated you." This is why I say there isn't really enough evidence to get a true reading in Majin Oob. I mean all he does is land a few punches and kicks on someone who has no idea where this other strength came from, and those punches and kicks are all blocked. Then Majin Obo goes in with a knee that's dodged, then kicks SBV once, where we can't tell if he was just testing Oob's power like before, or it did anything, then SBV dodges all of Majin Oob's energy blasts, and Majin Oob loses the beam struggle on purpose...In all honesty, I always thought it was either two. 1. They are equal, just Baby never got a chance to get an attack in. Which he really didn't. 2. Majin Oob was still weaker than SBV, and Baby was just testing out Oob's new power like he did before. Alright, I should be headed that way too...night. Edited by Saberoph, May 3 2011, 05:52 AM.
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May 3 2011, 02:05 PM Post #52 |
 
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as stated before lunar, sasuke, there hasnt been one story writer yet that hasnt applied some sort of real life physics to their world so saying they dont apply to a comic book isnt up to you. Its up to the storyteller. There are many people on this earth that can do things neither one of you can. Things that have defied explanation. Edited by Paikuan extreme, May 3 2011, 02:05 PM.
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| lunar2 | May 3 2011, 02:50 PM Post #53 |
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i'm sorry, but exctly where were physics applied in all of db/z/gt? was it the people that had enough energy in their body to destroy planets? was it the ability to cross galaxies in a week? was it the abilty to go from 3 ft. tall to 30 ft. tall in a matter of seconds just by looking at the moon? was it the clouds people stand on, or the pole that extends infinitely? how about fusion, yeah, that was real physics there. 2 people fuse together into one new person, without increasing size or mass. oh oh oh, i got it! it was the people yelling loud enough to tear holes in the universe, wasn't it? no? well, what about... talking in space!! yeah, that's it! not that either? hmm. regenerating entire bodies from 1. a head 2. a single cell 3. nothing, without eating or doing anything else to increase mass? oh, that's not it? what about changing people into chocolate, what about ingesting the bodies of tens of thousands of people in a matter of minutes and not changing size at all? nope? well then, it must be 1 person becoming 4 identical people? no? i'm sorry, i just don't see where physics ever came into play. it couldn't possibly be the mile wide planet with 10x earth gravity, or any humanoid withstanding 300x earth gravity. it couldn't be a planet with three suns arranged so that there's always one in the sky. it certainly couldn't be a wish granting dragon with the power to create planets and resurrect the dead. maybe it was fitting houses inside beans? i know! it was them walking and talking and doing all the mundane stuff! yeah, that's it! the db universe is based on real world physics because the people can walk and talk! |
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| Saberoph | May 3 2011, 08:57 PM Post #54 |
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When talking about DB/Z/GT, you have leave real world physics at the door because they'll do you no good. Also using other comic book physics won't do any good either becase each comic book universe has their own rules and physics. |
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| Ussj Future Trunks | Aug 19 2011, 04:59 AM Post #55 |
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what kind of logic is that? no he gets stomped. he knew it would be a waste of time if he tried, saying hed be killed along with vegeta if they were to fight. but thats in the manga logic, not anime. far beyond that imo. at least buutenks level. goku was clearly already hurt and tired in that fight. goku probably started in ssj3. i dont think hes that strong but stronger than buuhan he isnt. thats the thing. supposed to be. but goku had to go ssj1 in order to fight just BASE rildo. nope. kid buu > super buu. ignore kaioshin. hes an idiot. kid buus battle anime feats show him to only be around super buu level in raw power but better in every other area like regen and stamina. if statements contradict showings, i think it calls that statement into question of its validiity. kid buu isnt strongest in any version except maybe english dub. base rildo > base goku. base rildo > mr buu according to goku. metal rildo > ssj gt goku > kid buu = ssj3 goku > base rildo > base goku. thats called PIS. hes too strong for the plot to allow lol.
but he isnt. we never saw vegettos max power even in ssj1. goku says that baby vegeta second form is strongest ki hes ever felt. i dont think goku was quite aware exactly how strong they were as vegetto so i think hes talking about buuhan. majuub let himself be overpowered, you know that right? i never got that impression in subbed. vegetto was still above golden oozaru goku no hes much stronger. its not kid buu + fat buu. its uub fused with good buu. |
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| lunar2 | Aug 19 2011, 05:12 AM Post #56 |
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goku never went mssj until rilldo transformed, and then he was clearly toying with rilldo the entire time, EXCEPT when rilldo was using metal attacks. goku never even had an aura, even when fighting rilldo's highest form. also, according to anime logic, mr. buu > super buu. mssj goku was powerful enough to fight ultimate gohan, who stomps super buu. mr. buu had a better showing vs. kid buu than ssj2 vegeta, who is stated to be equal to goku's ssj2. super buu is actually the weakest anime buu, until he absorbs people. also, kid buu was stated to be the most powerful buu by the narrator as well, and his statement counts for a bit more than kaioshin's. back at rilldo, we don't know he was referring to mr. buu, but since he's never been seen fighting mr. buu, and buu can't be properly sensed, it makes more sense that goku was referring to a form of buu he's actually fought. that would be fat buu, kid buu, buutenks, or buuhan. |
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| Balthazor | Aug 19 2011, 05:23 AM Post #57 |
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This isn't funny Majuub wins |
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| Frostmourne | Aug 19 2011, 10:49 AM Post #58 |
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The answer came on this topic a long time ago , Majuub would stomp him. Look , in GT , Uub was at Goku's powerlevel , which is at Kid Buu's. Then he fused with Good buu. He could keep up with Baby's final form , which I belive is stronger or at Super Vegito's powerlevel (Not sure) But atleast he isn't way weaker than him. Uub wins and it's done. |
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| Skywalker | Aug 19 2011, 12:01 PM Post #59 |
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GT may have trampled on everything Z did, but Gohan doesn't deserve this. |
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