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| Ussj Future Trunks | May 2 2011, 03:42 PM Post #16 |
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"the anime buu arc, ssj3 goku = kid buu" goku: hes just toying with us. |
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| lunar2 | May 2 2011, 03:50 PM Post #17 |
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anime or manga continuity makes no difference. majuub rolls gohan. super 2 baby vegeta=> majuub > ssj vegito >>> mystic gohan manga continuity ^ super 2 baby vegeta => majuub > ssj3 gt goku >>> ssj3 z goku = kid buu > buuhan >> mystic gohan anime continuity ^ |
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| Saberoph | May 2 2011, 03:54 PM Post #18 |
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Actually Super Baby Vegeta was a good deal stronger than Majoob, just his attack caught Baby Vegeta off guard, and he was strong enough to take out Majoob whenever he wanted. During the beam struggle Baby Vegeta was laughing and quite easily overpowered Majoob. |
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| lunar2 | May 2 2011, 04:53 PM Post #19 |
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however, it was later made clear that majuub intended to be eaten all along, and was manipulating the fight towards that end. majuub was not fighting at full power at any point during that fight. |
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| Saberoph | May 2 2011, 05:12 PM Post #20 |
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Its also implied that Goku's Super Great Ape is the strongest level so far, and Super Baby Vegeta is equal to that Goku(Remember its stated Goku gets stronger in that form, and implied that Goku's power still increases during his Transformation). |
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| lunar2 | May 2 2011, 05:48 PM Post #21 |
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no, super baby vegeta was nowhere near equal to that form, he was immediately and completely out powered. |
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| Saberoph | May 2 2011, 09:02 PM Post #22 |
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SBV was only overpowered by the size of SGA Goku, because SBV was able to get shots off and caused problems for SGA Goku, it was the massive size SBV had problems with. SBV knew to beat Goku was just to increase his size too. Look at it this way and remember the Fireze arc, Frieza launched that mountain side at Goku, he had a high PL, but because it was so large he was unable to knock it back. See? Size does matter. 
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May 2 2011, 09:25 PM Post #23 |
 
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thus the reason for LSSjg3 broly's overpowering ability. you can be a strong as the hulk but it doesnt mean you can hit him. you: 5 to 6 feet lightweight hulk: 8 ft disgustingly large 600 pound physique broly: my guess is about 7 ft physique about the same maybe a little less goku,uub, gohan, baby vegeta non oozaru. about 4 to 6 ft tall. its good to be big and powerful. thats why supes is lucky hes 6'3 250 |
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| Saberoph | May 2 2011, 09:31 PM Post #24 |
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Also SGA Goku only hit SBV twice, and like I said SBV knew he couldn't do anything to Goku while he's so much smaller than him, so to remedy that problem he figures out to do the same, but instead of evening the playing field, he tips it in his favor. SS4 Goku was just smart in round two, he made sure SGA Baby didn't hit him and had to rely on energy attacks, and the fact that he was stronger temporarily. |
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| lunar2 | May 2 2011, 10:18 PM Post #25 |
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size doesn't really matter in dbz. goku vs piccolo jr. at the 23rd budokai proves this. piccolo became giant sized, and goku flat out told him that he just made himself a bigger target. |
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May 2 2011, 10:30 PM Post #26 |
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size does matter, and goku is crazy, he'll take you on regardless, this is about physics. Not wishful thinking, i can be as strong as galactus and not be able to do much to him if i cant get around his planetary size. It would NOT be easy for supes to fight galactus, ask the silver surfer and thanos, they are in his power range as well. |
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| lunar2 | May 2 2011, 10:51 PM Post #27 |
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QUIT BRINGING OTHER SERIES INTO DB DISCUSSIONS! you've been told that before. if i want to read about marvel asnd dc characters, i'll go to a comic forum. in dragonball, size does not matter. that has been stated. only strength, speed, stamina, and skill matter. that's it. if size mattered, goku wouldn't have said that it doesn't. if size mattered, piccolo would have went giant versus nappa, frieza, and everyone else that kicked his butt. size does not matter. |
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May 2 2011, 11:07 PM Post #28 |
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stop screaming about bringing up names, im grown i can do it if the need arises, i dont need your permission. I can compare and contrast anyone i want as long as its part of the discussed topic what about that do you fail to understand? size does matter and it DOESNT MATTER WHO IT IS OR WHAT SERIES YOU DISCUSS. So come off it, if you dont have a legit argument then dont tell me i cant use evidence to your contrary. Piccolo stopped using his big form quite a bit ago, and no one has fought oversized people except for goku. Lord slugs size was too much for goku in movie 4 until he went first form super saiyan, so save the yelling and no evidence to the contrary of what you said to someone else who wont respond to you like i would. BTW: ive only been warned for double posting by the mods, all of my references are relevant tothe subject at hand, i even included a reference about me for good measure. Want some tissue? like i stated before as my point, this is about physics. Without an advantage on your bigger opponent it hardly matters if you can bench press the same weight, apply it to real life and stop tripping. Edited by Paikuan extreme, May 2 2011, 11:09 PM.
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| lunar2 | May 2 2011, 11:24 PM Post #29 |
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movie 4 didn't happen, and goku went ssj versus slug before he got big anyway. no, out of universe anything does not apply. goku stated size doesn't matter. piccolo never used the kyodaika after the 23rd budokai, because he learned that size doesn't matter. it's a manga, there's no such thing as physics. |
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May 2 2011, 11:44 PM Post #30 |
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a manga is just a collection of comics, not the comic itself, manga just means graphic novel. I havent read a story yet in any fictional setting where there werent some type of real world physics involved in alot of things. As far as physics go? since all of the z fighters powers are mostly psychic and chi operated alot of what they can do is what alot of people already believe we can do, except flying. Alot of people already believe they can channel their chi and do extraordinary things, science itself has proven that there are some things that are in comics that prove more realistic than others, DBZ is one of them. Ive heard teh power blasts called chi filled compressed air for a more scientific analogy. But really? compressed air? if you can really fill bubbles of chi with power and shoot them har enough to affect someone would compressed air be involved? physics says it would, and i mean exploratory physics such as the aforementioned, or other experiments that have been conducted to solve the real life physics of many worlds, like star trek,star wars, or both for reference to any photon and laser powered weapon, spiderman, biologists discussed how someone could acquire his abilities and through what specific science would have to make that happen. Science is mostly theoretical as it is, but based on what we know and what we have studied about us and the world, is that its not enough. I also stated that the two people would have to be the same level of strength such as a fight between either goku and alot of taller people and gohan vs broly. We all agree broly was slightly more powerful than gohan during that fight, just like in movie 8 when it was goku vs broly the fact is that the real power dff wouldnt have made any difference if broly wasnt as big as he was. Goku was taking him base form until he hit LSSjg3. Then it was obvious broly's size was helping him win this fight. There is no denying that, because without his size broly wouldnt have beat goku up like that. The gap between frieza and goku was bigger than him and broly, or gohan and broly. yet frieza didnt do goku like broly did. No argument there. |
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