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Perfect Files
Topic Started: Mar 20 2011, 07:49 AM (2,060 Views)
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I just look at it this way, Gohan got quite a bit weaker and Goku got a ***** load stronger. To me it just makes more sense that way.
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I tried to do some research on the Perfect Files, and all I could find out is that Toei didn't actually make them, it was done by someone else and released by Jump Comics, if that's the case, i'm calling bull ***** then.
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Using the stupid wiki, it looks like the Perfect Files were created by Jump Comics and released by them. I'm still trying to find how authoritative they are and if Toriyama endorsed it.
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They were published by Shueisha under the Jump Comics label, and copyright Bird Studio, Shueisha, Fuji TV, and Toei Animation. They include reprints of Toriyama's various designs for GT, but he didn't contribute any new artwork, interviews, or other information like with the daizenshuu or SEGs. Which makes sense really, since Toriyama was barely involved in GT. The Perfect Files do however have various notes from the production staff actually responsible for making GT.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding and misinformation out there on how this stuff actually works. The idea that Toei or Toriyama would put out books on their own is completely nonsensical. Toei is an animation studio and Toriyama is just a manga artist; they don't own their own book publishing companies. Shueisha publishes all official DB books, including manga volumes, guidebooks, film comic adaptations of the DB movies, and everything else. The Perfect Files are no different.
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If that's true, then they are worthless.
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

That would mean the 'Perfect Files' are just educated guesses from people somewhat close to the production of GT. Which means they don't amount to much other than the occasional non-conclusive reference.
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Well of course. They would be as GT cannon as a pl list imo.

But that's only if it's true.
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

More research is merited. KP, you up for it? I'm sure you can all trust me when I say that I am willing to do a LOT of research if necessary, but, GT isn't really my forte.
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That's what i'm trying to do. I wanna know for sure if it was just a fan through Jump Comics, or if GT made this.
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

Calm down, Saberoph. No need to get violent.

Just kidding. I love you. Good luck, though. I've found that digging up factual information on GT is like trying to break a brick wall with your skull.
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Calm Down!? You Haven't Seen A Thing Yet! :lol: :lol:

I've figured that out too...so that's what's wrong with me. :D

But in all seriousness, it is like that. Until I find out it was done by Toei, then i'm gonna treat is as cannon as a pl list.
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yea it was created by fans basically and doesnt hold much cannonocity, and if gohan did keep training well he should be at the very least as strong as goku, becaue he was miles ahead of him in the buu saga, but i digress.

also on another note toei pretty much screwed everybody in gt...except for uub in the begginning, goku the whole series, and vegeta at the very end.

i mean goku tells goten an trunks, to train at the end of z, because thats who uub will look to for guidance, but no toei ignores it...and in 20 mother fricken years vegeta never attained ss3? he was arguably one of the hardest trainers in the series!

i hate toei....gt had potential, and they murdered it
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The total time between Chibi Boo and the beginning of GT was 15 years.

So in 15 years Goku takes his Base equal to his SS3 level (It doesn't matter which SS3 either). But Vegeta's Base is suppose to be equal to Goku's.
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What exactly am I supposed to be researching now?

I understood it as the Perfect Files being just as official as the Daizenshuu and Super Exciting Guide. The PF contain notes from the GT staff, so it's not really as if a fan made all that stuff up; the people actually making the show made it.
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You're suppose to be researching if the Perfect Files were endorsed by Toei, yes staff from the show made them, but if it's not endorsed by Toei, then they mine as well be just another book.

Because I doubt the Diaz would be considered cannon if they hadn't been endorsed by AT.
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You're suppose to be researching if the Perfect Files were endorsed by Toei, yes staff from the show made them, but if it's not endorsed by Toei, then they mine as well be just another book.

Because I doubt the Diaz would be considered cannon if they hadn't been endorsed by AT.
But why does Toei have to endorse it? Because they're the animation studio? But then wouldn't that be the same as the animation staff/team endorsing it?
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