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Broly's form
Topic Started: Mar 14 2011, 02:57 AM (11,325 Views)
+ Steve Mar 15 2011, 04:45 AM Post #16
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I just imagined an epic scene near the end where Gohan Vegeta Piccolo and Trunks(or Kid Trunks and Goten) are fighting broly meanwhile Goku is in ROSAT training to beat him and he comes out doing a slow mo walk with wrecked clothing and a triumphant theme playing then he proceeds to fight Broly
It would obviously have to be Goku but if it were up to me Vegeta Gohan or just all of them win with a beam struggle
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Saberoph Mar 15 2011, 04:47 AM Post #17
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 I liked Frieza, and I'm sure they could have done a good Broli arc, but only if they did it right, and not make him overpowering like the Tards do.

I can see him being as strong as a SS2, but making him out to be stronger than that is beyond realistic even by DBZ standards.
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Sam Mar 15 2011, 05:32 AM Post #18
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 I put Broly quite a bit higher than SSj2 Goku or Vegeta, but, a bit less so than Good Boo. Honestly, it's all speculation and not "Tardism" unless their main argument is "BROLY'S SWEET LAWL".
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Saberoph Mar 15 2011, 05:53 AM Post #19
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Mar 15 2011, 05:32 AM
I put Broly quite a bit higher than SSj2 Goku or Vegeta, but, a bit less so than Good Boo. Honestly, it's all speculation and not "Tardism" unless their main argument is "BROLY'S SWEET LAWL".
And I'm comfortable with him being on Good Boo's level, but I find post-Zeta sword SS2 Gohan stronger than Mr. Boo.

My current view on Broli is, he's stronger than SS2 Goku and Vegeta, but weaker than post-Zeta sword SS2 Gohan, not by a lot but a little.

I'm not saying everyone who says Broli is strong is a Tard, but it's the Tards who make it hard for Broli fans to have a cival debate.
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+ Steve Mar 15 2011, 05:55 AM Post #20
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I put Broly quite a bit higher than SSj2 Goku or Vegeta, but, a bit less so than Good Boo. Honestly, it's all speculation and not "Tardism" unless their main argument is "BROLY'S SWEET LAWL".
Yeah I'm a Broly fan but it's people like that that just make me think aw for gods sake and turn to the other side lol it's so annoying having a debate about it then somebody comes in with "yh broly wins hes freakin kool!" No go away you have no part in this you moron! Thats what I usualy want to say lol
Yeah I would agree with what you said about him higher than those 2 but not by that much just he would win easily with his replenishing ki as that's a major advantage

I never really cared for Frieza I thought it was quite annoying how he was involved something as awesome as the first SSJ transformation as I said I just see him as a child my 8 year old sister is less of a brat than him and god knows how old he is I prefer the well developed intelligent characters like Cell

EDIT:@Saberoph that's exactly what I mean lol if you're talking about it then people come in with their tard problems it just makes the people onthe other side of the argument stop paying attention to what anybody says and just kills the whole thing
Edited by Steve, Mar 15 2011, 05:58 AM.
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Saberoph Mar 15 2011, 06:05 AM Post #21
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 Either that or it gets heated and someone ends up being suspended or warned or even both, or everyone just quits debating in the Topic all together.

See, I'm slowly coming back to Broli (That sounds so wrong :lol: ), but every time a Tard comes around and starts their crap, I end up backing off a little and it takes longer because I end up getting tired of it all over again.
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Nusu Mar 15 2011, 06:34 AM Post #22
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

He is not overpowered, his tards are overpowering him. He has an respectable theortical power scale, theortical because there is no. Haha.
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Sam Mar 15 2011, 06:46 AM Post #23
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.
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Mar 15 2011, 05:53 AM
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Mar 15 2011, 05:32 AM
I put Broly quite a bit higher than SSj2 Goku or Vegeta, but, a bit less so than Good Boo. Honestly, it's all speculation and not "Tardism" unless their main argument is "BROLY'S SWEET LAWL".
And I'm comfortable with him being on Good Boo's level, but I find post-Zeta sword SS2 Gohan stronger than Mr. Boo.

My current view on Broli is, he's stronger than SS2 Goku and Vegeta, but weaker than post-Zeta sword SS2 Gohan, not by a lot but a little.

I'm not saying everyone who says Broli is strong is a Tard, but it's the Tards who make it hard for Broli fans to have a cival debate.
Yeah. SSj2 Gohan [post Zeta-Sword Training] would kill Broly without a lot of trouble, I think. The max I would put Broly is = or slightly greater than Mr. Boo. I have no idea where SSj2 Gohan [post Z-Sword Training] would fit in, a bit ahead of Good Boo, though. Not hugely, but, quite a bit. Even if Broly is a bit stronger than Good Boo, I think SSj2 Gohan has a great enough gap where Broly's abilities would not be able to overcome the strength difference and he'd be killed without much risk or trouble at all by Gohan. I have no idea how Gohan got so strong but he got hugely stronger. He'd definitely faceroll Broly, alright.
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Saberoph Mar 15 2011, 06:47 AM Post #24
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 That's what I mean, Tards overpower him. Fans who wanna carry on a real civil debate don't.

But it's the Tards who make it hard to have a civil debate.

Edit: Oh I agree with you, see I have post Zeta sword SS2 Gohan, higher than both Mr. Boo and Evil Boo, but weaker than Fat Boo. Which is where he should be IMO.

See, Broli is a good character, when used and done properly.
Edited by Saberoph, Mar 15 2011, 06:50 AM.
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Sam Mar 15 2011, 06:55 AM Post #25
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

 It all comes down to perspective. We know in movie 10 that he is at the very least, absolute bare minimum, Super Perfect Cell level. Past that it's all speculation. There is a lot of evidence that puts him at least at SSj2 Chibi Gohan [full power] level and unless you're a real Broly hater that chooses to disregard evidence, then, that's the bare minimum. I think the most accepted area for LSSj Broly (movie 10) is around SSj2 Goku/Vegeta level. Having debated this for years, I basically have to say "don't underestimate him". I think what he did to Gohan was truly impressive, surrounding other facts, I put him around Good Boo's level, maybe a bit stronger, maybe a bit weaker. Good Boo, I think, is quite a bit stronger than SSj2 Vegeta/Goku (as referenced by the fact that he lasted quite a bit longer against Chibi Boo than SSj2 Vegeta at full power did, and it has nothing to do that Good Boo is more resilient or something, as it was stated by Vegeta that "Boo's can hurt each other."

Good Boo's resiliency only applies to when he's fighting Saiyans or humans, etc.) And with the Daizenshuu entry basically stating SSj Broly > MSSj Goku (Boo Arc) that puts even SSj Broly way high up there, possibly on par with Perfect Cell (full power) or maybe even stronger. It just fits together that, at that point, his LSSj form would provide such a dramatic increase he would be around Good Boo with his zenkai, maybe even slightly more powerful. It's all speculation and it's just how I choose to view it.

Aaanyway... off topic, though, I do believe Kamikaze Pyro WTFPWNED USSj Future Trunks' argument.

Goku = Legendary Super Saiyan of the Canonical Universe
Broly = Legendary Super Saiyan of the Non-Canonical Universe

If it makes you feel any better, I'm sure both Goku and Broly wouldn't care who has the title.
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Saberoph Mar 15 2011, 07:01 AM Post #26
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Goku = Legendary Super Saiyan of the Canonical Universe
Broly = Legendary Super Saiyan of the Non-Canonical Universe

I couldn't agree more.

As you can see my perspective and opinion on Broli has changed since the last time you and I talked about him.

I started thinking about his LSS form, and came to the conclusion that it's his own SS2, with some twists and a unique look.
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lunar2 Mar 15 2011, 07:11 AM Post #27
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 @@steveboy. your comment about broli being a real villain while frieza was a spoiled brat. frieza built a galactic planet trade empire, and was actually very mature about most things, until he transformed. broly went ape***** because goku cried too loud. who's the spoiled brat?
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Sam Mar 15 2011, 08:46 AM Post #28
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

 I have to agree with lunar2. Freeza is an interesting villain with a backstory I wish was fleshed out more. Broly's story is, to put it mildly, immature and shallow.
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Saberoph Mar 15 2011, 08:57 AM Post #29
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 It is, but could be handled and done much better, given the right writers.
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+ Steve Mar 15 2011, 10:34 PM Post #30
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@@steveboy. your comment about broli being a real villain while frieza was a spoiled brat. frieza built a galactic planet trade empire, and was actually very mature about most things, until he transformed. broly went ape***** because goku cried too loud. who's the spoiled brat?
Did he not get all that from his father? His father is like the secret leader of the whole thing few people knew he even existed Frieza never done it alone how was he mature? Everything about his character is immature
Well being so powerful at such a young age clearly affected Broly's mental state of mind making him insane and thats all he remembers from being a baby so its perfectly fine for him to be like that, though it is a bit of a poor plot but if he had his own saga it would be more developed blah blah you get the rest
I'll stick to my opinion of Frieza anyway
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