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Broly's form
Topic Started: Mar 14 2011, 02:57 AM (11,317 Views)
Saberoph Apr 9 2011, 05:33 AM Post #136
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 I don't think Broli is a dumb *****, but I do think sometimes his insanity takes over, and he does things he shouldn't, like going into and around lava...that wasn't smart, and toying around with Gohan wasn't smart either. Because if Gohan had went total ape ***** in Movie 10, Broli wouldn't have a chance at even toying with Gohan imo.
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+ Ryebrid Apr 9 2011, 05:42 AM Post #137
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 Mmm yeah also i'd like to say if he was so much stronger than Gohan why didn't Gohan get one shotted?

Lack of use with SSJ2+ Lack of confidence+ Broly is stronger = not good for Gohan
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Nusu Apr 9 2011, 07:35 AM Post #138
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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You are like Hybrid and Ussj at this point, you all think because he is Insane, he is stupid. There are quite a lot of Insane people out there, and they are smart. Broly loves to torcher, even the line, "Not until you lie that at my feet" the word "until", gives me kind of the sense he isn't done yet.

How do you know? Just because he grunts? He was seen talking and enjoying Gohan's scream, why should he go for the kill?
Hey i never said that.

I said he was insane but i didnt say he was stupid. Can you call chasing after someone into boiling lava smart? haha i cant
Oh excuse me Mr. Hybrid. I think it was Ussj at this point that called Broly a "Stupid Wrestler on Crack". Dear sir I'm in shame. I think I gonna cut myself.

Well, no, Piccolo, and Vegeta and Goku would not fly into the lava, but those are no character's that think that they are God and basically Invincible.

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Saberoph Apr 9 2011, 12:52 PM Post #139
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I think I gonna cut myself.

That's a little overboard, just start shooting...much more therapeutic. :D
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Well, no, Piccolo, and Vegeta and Goku would not fly into the lava, but those are no character's that think that they are God and basically Invincible.

Like I said, I don't think Broli is stupid by any means, but I think his insanity takes at times and he does things he shouldn't. But I think if there had been a third Broli with the Real Broli (Not that awful cluster ***** of a movie Bio Broli), that he would have been completely off his rocker to the point where he would've pretty much done anything imo.
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Wintergreen5000 Apr 9 2011, 05:30 PM Post #140
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 Well, for the record, Broly didn't exactly make a stupid mistake by going near the lava considering...it didn't exactly stop him. I mean, his body was burnt but you could see in his face that he wasn't even hurt.
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Saberoph Apr 9 2011, 05:38 PM Post #141
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 That's what I mean, Broli knew he wouldn't get hurt chasing Gohan, he was smart enough to know his aura would protect him imo.
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crimsondarkness Jan 19 2012, 08:44 PM Post #142
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Apr 7 2011, 02:23 PM
Gohan had two bangs, Gohan's MSS was two bangs, so explain that one.

Pretty convenient you make an argument, then say you're not gonna continue this...I didn't think I would have to do this again so soon.

SS2 Gohan.
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SS2 Gohan vs. Broli.
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Also SS2 Gohan vs. Broli.
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MSS Gohan.
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Again, MSS Gohan.
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Again MSS Gohan.
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MSS Gohan about to fire a Kamehameha, it looks just like the other MSS pics.
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Posted Image Gohan movie designs shows two clearly different styles for the Gohan character in movie 10. One that resembles his SSJ form, the other resembles SSJ2. Also note that some of the positions/angles you see in the scan seem to be literally copied from various manga panels...

Here is the same scan posted again, only this time in higher resolution;

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So yeah he was indeed a ssj2.
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Saberoph Jan 19 2012, 09:08 PM Post #143
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 Gohan's SS at the end of Movie 10 matches Gohan MSS at the beginning of the Boo arc, now if you're talking about round one, then I agree with you.
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Paikuan extreme Jan 19 2012, 09:16 PM Post #144
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 Iwant an official statement from toei, the way they drew gohan was ridiculous, copying his from from the manga, it makes no sense as it makes it impossible to tell exactly WHICH gohan they wanted to portray, all i really see is laziness and not wanting to draw gohan any way but the most current, DESPITE any protest that might arise from it, or confusion.

Gohan wasnt drawn with any for sure ssj2 characteristics in my opinion. No mainline stare, his ssj strand of hair, his lack of lightning AND aura, despite broly crackling nicely with electricity and energy.

It was all a show for broly, and a gohan who LOOKS like he might not have mastered his ssj2 form. No cell? no rosat. no rosat? no ssj2. just mo.

Gohans mssj wasnt enuff to fight broly in movie 10, if indeed he WAS the same gohan then he should be just as strong as broly, as his main timeline counterpart was in the manga/anime, even with perfect cell at full power, who is even with broly lssj movie 8.

The daiz only states his ssj is stronger than gokus, not gohans. as gohan showed plainly while defending everyone against an ssj broly. If gohan can do that to broly in base? then why is his suposed ssj2 multiplier so low then? makes no sense. Unless of course they do the same thing to this gohan as they did in movie 8, and put him behind goku for no reason.

Movie 8 gohan should have finished broly off in movie 8, and pretty easily i might add. Perfect cell has what broly doesnt, a crapload of speed. Gohan kept up easy.

Its almost a no brainer as far as im concerned.
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FollowtheLeader Jan 19 2012, 11:22 PM Post #145
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 Broly is the legend. Stop hatin.
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Paikuan extreme Jan 20 2012, 02:20 AM Post #146
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 wrong, goku is.
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FollowtheLeader Jan 20 2012, 05:41 AM Post #147
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Jan 20 2012, 02:20 AM
wrong, goku is.
No, no. Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan.
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Copy_Ninja Jan 20 2012, 05:45 AM Post #148
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Novacane for the pain

In canon it's probably Goku. In Broly's alternative universe where he exists he is the legend.
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+ Pyrus Jan 20 2012, 09:05 AM Post #149
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Jan 19 2012, 09:16 PM
Iwant an official statement from toei, the way they drew gohan was ridiculous, copying his from from the manga, it makes no sense as it makes it impossible to tell exactly WHICH gohan they wanted to portray, all i really see is laziness and not wanting to draw gohan any way but the most current, DESPITE any protest that might arise from it, or confusion.

The producer of the movie stated he made Broly out to be the strongest Saiyan in existence up to that point, which means he's stronger than SSjin 2 Kid Gohan in Movie 10. Unless you think MSSjin Teen Gohan is stronger than SSjin 2 Kid Gohan in M10, then he had to have been a Super Saiyan 2, like his sketches depict.
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Gohan wasnt drawn with any for sure ssj2 characteristics in my opinion. No mainline stare, his ssj strand of hair, his lack of lightning AND aura, despite broly crackling nicely with electricity and energy.

What mainline stare? He looked cold and unforgiving like he did in the Cell Games.

Lightning is always missing from Toei. They don't care enough. Gohan's aura also matched his Super Saiyan 2 aura from the manga/anime, because it certainly wasn't a regular Super Saiyan aura.
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It was all a show for broly, and a gohan who LOOKS like he might not have mastered his ssj2 form. No cell? no rosat. no rosat? no ssj2. just mo.

Gohans mssj wasnt enuff to fight broly in movie 10, if indeed he WAS the same gohan then he should be just as strong as broly, as his main timeline counterpart was in the manga/anime, even with perfect cell at full power, who is even with broly lssj movie 8.

Gohan was never even with Cell's full power. How did you get that?
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The daiz only states his ssj is stronger than gokus, not gohans. as gohan showed plainly while defending everyone against an ssj broly. If gohan can do that to broly in base? then why is his suposed ssj2 multiplier so low then? makes no sense. Unless of course they do the same thing to this gohan as they did in movie 8, and put him behind goku for no reason.

It's not that Gohan's SSjin 2 multiplier was low. Broly's LSSjin multiplier was just higher.
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Movie 8 gohan should have finished broly off in movie 8, and pretty easily i might add. Perfect cell has what broly doesnt, a crapload of speed. Gohan kept up easy.

Its almost a no brainer as far as im concerned.

Gohan may have been as fast as Cell, but he was nowhere near as powerful.
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Jan 20 2012, 05:45 AM
In canon it's probably Goku. In Broly's alternative universe where he exists he is the legend.

He is the legend personified.
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Paikuan extreme Jan 20 2012, 10:12 AM Post #150
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Jan 19 2012, 09:16 PM
Iwant an official statement from toei, the way they drew gohan was ridiculous, copying his from from the manga, it makes no sense as it makes it impossible to tell exactly WHICH gohan they wanted to portray, all i really see is laziness and not wanting to draw gohan any way but the most current, DESPITE any protest that might arise from it, or confusion.

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The producer of the movie stated he made Broly out to be the strongest Saiyan in existence up to that point, which means he's stronger than SSjin 2 Kid Gohan in Movie 10. Unless you think MSSjin Teen Gohan is stronger than SSjin 2 Kid Gohan in M10, then he had to have been a Super Saiyan 2, like his sketches depict.

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Gohan wasnt drawn with any for sure ssj2 characteristics in my opinion. No mainline stare, his ssj strand of hair, his lack of lightning AND aura, despite broly crackling nicely with electricity and energy.

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What mainline stare? He looked cold and unforgiving like he did in the Cell Games.


it looks to me like they just wanted to give gohan the most recent look they had despite just catching up with whats going on on the flip side.

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Lightning is always missing from Toei. They don't care enough. Gohan's aura also matched his Super Saiyan 2 aura from the manga/anime, because it certainly wasn't a regular Super Saiyan aura.
no it wasnt, but neither is an fpmssj or ascended saiyan aura and hair. Gohans hair was pretty yellow and not very ascended colored looking. But thats just grasping for straws, im more or less wondering why gohan didnt have his own look.

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It was all a show for broly, and a gohan who LOOKS like he might not have mastered his ssj2 form. No cell? no rosat. no rosat? no ssj2. just mo.

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Gohans mssj wasnt enuff to fight broly in movie 10, if indeed he WAS the same gohan then he should be just as strong as broly, as his main timeline counterpart was in the manga/anime, even with perfect cell at full power, who is even with broly lssj movie 8.

Gohan was never even with Cell's full power. How did you get that?

Cells constant claim and gokus he had more power than letting on. As a matter of fact, i remember cells speed being gohans confidence being his real downfall, not lack of strength, so theres that.
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The daiz only states his ssj is stronger than gokus, not gohans. as gohan showed plainly while defending everyone against an ssj broly. If gohan can do that to broly in base? then why is his supposed ssj2 multiplier so low then? makes no sense. Unless of course they do the same thing to this gohan as they did in movie 8, and put him behind goku for no reason.

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It's not that Gohan's SSjin 2 multiplier was low. Broly's LSSjin multiplier was just higher.

I can see that, but according to my logic gohan should be as strong as broly/cell at absolute full power. who in my belief also wouldnt have kept up with cells speed. they still put him behind goku.

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Movie 8 gohan should have finished broly off in movie 8, and pretty easily i might add. Perfect cell has what broly doesnt, a crapload of speed. Gohan kept up easy.

Its almost a no brainer as far as im concerned.

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Gohan may have been as fast as Cell, but he was nowhere near as powerful.


as stated previous, cells real advantage was his speed, and gohans overconfidence, again. Gohans fault really, he may not have had it all but he was definitely in the ball park.
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Jan 20 2012, 05:45 AM
In canon it's probably Goku. In Broly's alternative universe where he exists he is the legend.

He is the legend personified.

yes he is. in a universe where anyone can achieve ascension, his is that birthright, in the main timeline its a rare mutant type achievement in power made by those supposedly of royal blood. thus vegetas belief.

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