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| All movies in DBZ are not in the main timeline?; I would LOVE TO HEAR THEORIES! | |
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| NeoSSayajin | Apr 13 2011, 05:26 PM Post #76 |
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The return of Garlic? You mean the Garlic Jr. Saga? It fits perfectly during the year that Goku is on Yardrat after the battle with Frieza. |
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| Saberoph | Apr 13 2011, 05:28 PM Post #77 |
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I believe Coolers Revenge is an alternate timeline, where Trunks does show up, but Goku kills Frieza on Namek. Cooler shows up after Cold is killed.but he doesn't receive word. The return of Cooler is where The Namek killed Cell in Gingertown, just Goku and Vegeta are haxed. That makes sense to me. Super 13 is where either Gero shuts No. 17 and 18 before they killed him, or Bulma makes a remote and they are shut down before the rosat, and The Namek still kills early Cell. That's how I view them, they are in the same alternate timeline. Just that timeline is different with the little things that happen, imo. |
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| lunar2 | Apr 13 2011, 05:38 PM Post #78 |
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right. dead zone happens in the main timeline with one extremely minor plothole. world's strongest can't happen in the main timeline at all. the two movies are completely unrelated. movie 5 fits in the main timeline pretty well, in the 3 year training period. it has power issues- goku and cooler are overpowered- but those can be explained fairly easily. movie 6 is an alt timeline, and is NOT a direct sequel to movie 5. in movie 5, cooler dies. movie 6 is a what if cooler didn't die. it doesn't change the fact that cooler did die. movie 7 could be placed in the same timeline as movie 6, but i prefer to separate them. |
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list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god | |
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| NeoSSayajin | Apr 13 2011, 05:39 PM Post #79 |
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At the prologue of Movie 7 Gero is killed by Android 17, and also his hand has been torn apart before. Also in Movie 6 Dende asks for help to Goku, why Goku if the Namek (sum this, he is of the same race) was the strongest according to you?. This things mean that in this timeline: - Movie 5 - Androids 19 and 20 appear, 19 is destroyed, Gero activates 17 and 18 and kill him. His supercomputer continues working on 13, 14 and 15. - Kami fuse with Piccolo, Androids 17 and 18 are defeated or deactivated. - 6 Months/1 year pass - Movie 6 - Another 6 months/1 year pass - Movie 7 |
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| Saberoph | Apr 13 2011, 05:45 PM Post #80 |
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@lunar. But Cooler says he did survive, and that he shouldn't be. That doesn't mean they are not connected. @neo. That's why I said Goku and Vegeta are haxed. That would make them stronger. |
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Apr 13 2011, 05:59 PM Post #81 |
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hmm... i get what you are saying, but i was referring to the original timeline not the main one. you know? where goku actually dies of heart disease and everyone dies? that timeline. Ill watch movie 7 again though. cooler did die, just like frieza did, in pretty much the same way, a huge explosion. The big getty star found coolers remains and downloaded his brain into a supercoputer, not to far a stretch in my book, considering that frieza survided a planets explosion. Coolers story is a what if in general, him survivng the way he did wasnt a surprise. Just the next step. Yup most of the movies are a bunch of one shot out of continuity stories. Nothing wrong with that at all, it just makes people argue about why when we will never actually know why none of these stories fit in perfectly with no plotholes. man its like watching power rangers and trying to understand where ivan ooze fits in and the truth about where the turbo power really came from. Not much different than taking spideys web shooters and replacing them with natural ones along with him growing up next door to mary jane when he didnt meet her till he was in college. Give someone a chance to tell their own story and nothing will make sense. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Apr 13 2011, 06:08 PM.
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| Saberoph | Apr 13 2011, 06:11 PM Post #82 |
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I look at it this way, if Movie 6 is what if Cooler survives, then Movie 10 is what if Broli survives...that goes both ways. |
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Apr 13 2011, 06:14 PM Post #83 |
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yup, i can agree with that. broly dying was pretty obvious too. |
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| Saberoph | Apr 13 2011, 06:16 PM Post #84 |
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I'm just saying, if Movie 6 is a what if, then Movie 10 can be one too. |
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| lunar2 | Apr 13 2011, 06:16 PM Post #85 |
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sure. no problem with that. we see cooler die in movie 5, we see broly die in move 8. come to think of it, we see goku and frieza die on namek. the dragonball franchise is filled with people who definitely died, and then all of a sudden, didn't actually die. |
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list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god | |
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| Saberoph | Apr 13 2011, 06:33 PM Post #86 |
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Well, i'm not saying I believe, I was just pointing out that it could work for more than one Movie. But I don't believe that to be true, Cooler says himself that his brain was absorbed with the chip and that the Big Gete Star regenerated his body, so Cooler somehow surviving isn't far fetched, no more than Frieza some how surviving Namek. |
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| SupahSaiyajinGoku (Pre Rosat) | Apr 15 2011, 01:08 PM Post #87 |
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movie 5 during 3 year wait movie 6 android crisis movie 7 post android crisis without cell |
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