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All movies in DBZ are not in the main timeline?; I would LOVE TO HEAR THEORIES!
Topic Started: Mar 13 2011, 03:26 AM (7,908 Views)
Saberoph
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But either way, it works because Goku and Vegeta are dead, but if that's the case, then Gohan should be Ultimate. Because that ritual was started before Goten and Trunks went in the rosat, so maybe Gotenks didn't kill Boo, maybe it was Ultimate Gohan.

But this time, Gohan talked Goten and Trunks out of fusing this time, so Gohan ended up killing Boo. It would make sense.
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i have absolutely no problem with ssj3 gotenks or ultimate gohan being the one to kill buu. i just assumed that gotenks was pre rosat, because he fused to show off, but didn't go to ssj3.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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But all those enemies are stupid weak compared to Base Gotenks as it is, so SS3 would actually be stupid because of it's drain, you wouldn't think he would show it off knowing what it does. But that's just me.
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The only thing I know for certain is that Wheelo, Slug, Coola, Bojack, Broly and Jenemba are all in the same universe and timeline. Why I say this is because people from all of these movies appear in Fusion Reborn tying all those verses together.
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wheelo and slug characters appearing in movie 12 is just a plothole. unless janema actually broke through to other universes? hmm. yeah, that's what had to happen. janemba actually opened up gateways between multiple hells. because wheelo and slug did NOT appear in janemba's timeline. they are just too different.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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That's what I believe about Cooler being there too, Jamemba just broke through every barrier there was imo.
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well, cooler (movie 5) could be in that timeline, but metacooler is in his own little warped line all by himself.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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But I don't see how they can't be in the same timeline, that's why I believe Coolers Revenge and Return of Cooler to be in an alternate timeline, but fit together in the same timeline.
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I would have to agree with it being part of a plot hole when you really look at it. But in my mind there are no second hells or anything like that.

There are just are colossal amounts of plotholes brought up by linking movie verses. Hatchiyack ova is also bad because it links turles, slug, coola and broly.
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Apr 12 2011, 10:47 PM
why past worlds strongest? actually, all the movies that DO fit the main timeline easily are after worlds strongest. and the movies weren't ova's that were strung together, or anything like that. each movie was created as one whole, and was planned out just like any episode. and none of the movies were originally part of the anime. only 1 is even referenced in the anime, and that's dead zone.
i said they have a reason to be a what if, its not mandatory to think of them that way but you can. OVA means original video animation, so how dont the movies fit into that category? all alegorical one shots that run along the main storyline and complement with a what if. All im saying. Its true that the only one mentioned in the anime is the dead zone but then where does the return of garlic fit? it comes after the worlds strongest because in the return of garlic goku is dead so then nevermind i can end the official continuity there. im not disagreeing with you but this seems more like arguing over semantics than what my point was. All ofthe movies run along the storyline that was my whole point. But considering they are strung together to do that. An ova may usually only be a half an hour or so but a movie in direct relation to the subject should be considered an ova, motion pics included. They were planned by different people who all wanted to do a seperate take on the storyline or do a what if for a failed storyline no one could agree on. I would have approved it if I was AT. Its because of stuff like this we are getting one shot storylines and ova's now in american comics. I have a crap load of mtion pic OVA's directly from the comic storyline or storyline one shots that take place in an alternate universe. Like the young justice premiere movie. If anyone knows about world 16? then you would know that hardly any of those heroes are actually in it. But since it was for tv's sake they turned world 16 into an almost legitimate storyline as it follows main continuity figures like the original supes instead of kal kent from the future and so on.
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Damn, I think me and you are the only two debating in this thread who's online. :lol:

I already gave my two cents, but oh well.

I think Movies 5, 6 and 7 are all in it's own alternate timeline. It may sound crazy but to me it fits.
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I love speaking on alternate timelines and universes, it makes the world go round. nah saber you arent wrong thats for sure, its obvious some of these projects had follow ups after seeing how much popularity they amounted. Cooler and the return of cooler were epic storylines when i was growing up. I just think they could have been more specific as to where they fit. So would your storyline fit in with the original timeline? becasue it obviously doesnt fit in the new continuity. frieza had a brother, i saw the bardock movie, eye opening to say the least.
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So would your storyline fit in with the original timeline?

What do you mean my storyline?
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The one your promoting...movies 5 6 and 7? they all fit into the same continuity obviously. So do they possibly fit in the original timeline or what? cooler and the return of cooler are obviously connected.
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Apr 13 2011, 04:56 PM
The one your promoting...movies 5 6 and 7? they all fit into the same continuity obviously. So do they possibly fit in the original timeline or what? cooler and the return of cooler are obviously connected.
Movies 5, 6 and 7 are their own timeline, they dont fit in the main timeline at all, many inconsistences. Movie 6 Kamiccolo is a consecuence of Androids 17 and 18 being activated, Movie 7 happens months after Movie 6 (if you watch the prologue of Movie 7 youll understand).
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