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Majin Vegeta Vs Lssj broly (movie 10); Who would win this fight?
Topic Started: Feb 7 2011, 08:41 AM (14,297 Views)
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That's why I said there are three factors with a SS2 hair, aura and sparks. If they had added just the sparks the aura and hair would still contradict the sparks. Like in the other world Budokai, Goku went SS, sparks were added but he only had SS hair and aura.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

That´s added by TOEI, and everything that happened in the other-world is filler.
Edited by Nusu, Feb 16 2011, 04:08 PM.
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I know that but this is a movie were talking about here, so filler can be used as a refrence. Not only that but we are talking about Toei's work, you can't include one and not the other.
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It is a plot-hole. And even if they putted sparks into the SSJ 2 Gohan used against Broly, it would still make sense considering that Gohan was seen with two bangs which obviously, should every DBZ fan know to be his Original SSJ State, so it would be logical. So, it would be easy to put those two apart, also, as the SSJ debuted Goku didn´t had any sparks, this means Toei made a plot hole within their own Anime.
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Then Toei made a plot hole in Movie 10 too, yes Gohan did have two bangs, but even when Gohan had only one it was still Gohan's SS hair style. The sparks wouldn't make sense because his hair and aura is SS, Toei woild have to reanimate it but then people like me would argue that it was reanimated and the original says different. So no matter how you look at it, we will never know unless Toei goes on record and tells us which form Gohan was in.
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Firstly. They only plot hole they did, is the same plot-hole they use in any movie with a SSJ 2 and that is not to put the sparks in. Not at all, they need to be utterly stupid, to use two hair-styles. It´s like saying, Edgar Wallace suddenly changes King Kong´s look into a Orangatang when he wrote the story for King Kong.

Secondly. They use the same look Gohan had when he first transformed into the SSJ 2, why giving him this look and then call him SSJ 1?

Thirdly. How can Gohan do better then he did in the last movie, when he got stomped in the first with utter ease, and there he was a MSSJ, and he got weaker during the seven years where he didn´t trained.

Fourthly. I can understand and even put into a logical statement, why Toei decided to use two different hair-styles. We all know that the one-bang was Gohan´s SSJ 2 trademark during the Tournament, but sadly, Akira Toriyama decided to give Gohan also one-bang in his SSJ form, so, it would seem rather logical, to use the past style to keep those two in one place, the one bang for SSJ 2 Gohan, the two-bang for SSJ 1 Gohan.

Fifthly. Broly´s sudden change in mood after Gohan transformed seems rather odd. King Kai states to Goku that Broly might be even stronger then him, so, we know that Paragus never allowed Broly to go beyond the RSSJ state, probably, because he was as SSJ not anymore to control. So, if Gohan got weaker i would put him easily on par with Goku during the movie and during the Cell Games. He would lose even to an SSJ Broly, so Broly´s sudden change in facial expression and that he gained a Zenkai during his recovering in the ice, should actually put Broly as LSSJ far ahead of an SSJ Gohan who got about 20% weaker.
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Yes they could do that, remember I did say I'm still on the fence about Gohan being SS2 or not. This is how I look at it, if Gohan was just SS then Broli isn't even close to SPC's level, if Gohan was SS2 then Broli is equal to SPC IMO.
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Alright. Well, if its your opinion, then stick with it. :D
Edited by Nusu, Feb 16 2011, 05:04 PM.
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What's gonna be the deal breaker is this screenshot I found last night, I'm trying to wait until my headache goes away before I look at it and a screenshot of SS2 Gohan, to me that's how evidence works.

Edit: Now Nusu don't faint lol. I go with Gohan being SS2 in Movie 10, when I get the pics loaded on my photobucket I'll load them here so you can see what I went by. So that means I place Broli's power equal to SPC IMO.
Edited by Saberoph, Feb 16 2011, 06:10 PM.
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I'm interested to see these pictures.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Me too. I mean, those pictures i showed were pretty accurate already. But okay, i wont faint yet. :p
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Feb 16 2011, 06:32 PM
I'm interested to see these pictures.
Yea, but what I did back in Vegas will have to stay secret...Oh wait those pictures. :lol:

I was able to get two better screenshots than what Nusu had, and a vew episode shots too.
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Well, yeah, weirdly most of the good Movie 10 Pictures of Gohan suddenly disappeared from Google.
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Yea, question though...how were you able to post those pics and have text with them?
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When you click on "Add Reply" there is a button that say´s "image" click on it. Give the URL in and click okay. Uhm, i just wrote the text under the Image URL.
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