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| Majin Vegeta Vs Lssj broly (movie 10); Who would win this fight? | |
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| Nusu | Feb 15 2011, 08:14 PM Post #76 |
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.
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In my opinion, they were using the old hair-style to avoid, debates like these. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 15 2011, 08:18 PM Post #77 |
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Well I can understand why you say that, or we could just say TOEI is lazy and not consistent. On a side note, I hope you know I wasn't attacking you or your opinion, just voicing my own opinion and how I view it. |
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| Nusu | Feb 15 2011, 08:21 PM Post #78 |
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No problem. You got a good point with the release date. I doubt Toei is that lazy actually. They would not just make a movie and then suddenly decide two make to hair-styles for Gohan, also, Broly got stronger, stomped a MSSJ Goku and Gohan, and Gohan is just going as MSSJ again? It´s like Vegeta letting Cell absorb Android 18 all over again. Edited by Nusu, Feb 15 2011, 08:21 PM.
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| Saberoph | Feb 15 2011, 08:25 PM Post #79 |
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I get your point but, even with that SS or SS2 Broli's beating didn't seem that impressive. I believe Gohan lost 30% of his power, which means Broli could only be at SPC's level, to me that makes sense because in Movie 8 you can clearly see Goku had MSS power at the end. I find Broli gaining power beyond Majin Vegeta to be completely unrealistic even for a DBZ Movie. |
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| Nusu | Feb 15 2011, 08:28 PM Post #80 |
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Goku was already MSSJ. And you can´t just gain MSSJ power, frankly, it´s just mastering the form. IMO. If Broly was that strong Gohan would´ve done more damage i put, SSJ 2 Teen Gohan and SPC about equal. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 15 2011, 08:36 PM Post #81 |
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Yea I should have been more specific. I mean up until Goku finishes gathering everyones energy I believer he was weaker then his Cell games self, I see him already mastering SS but, not as powerful as his Cell Games self. I don't agree with them being equal, but that's kool. I so Gohan being more powerful than his weakened self but, not as powerful as SPC, I just find it hard that Broli is stronger than SPC. Am I a big Gohan fan yea, but as you can see I still place high enough over Gohan that he could have killed him at any moment, I don't think he holds back but, he like to torture and see others suffer. |
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| Nusu | Feb 15 2011, 08:46 PM Post #82 |
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I think, that about Gohan and Goku being as strong as at the Cell Games really depends on opinion. In my opinion, i don´t see why not. Gohan is still as unconfident as against Cell, Piccolo is in the RoSat, Vegeta and Trunks are about as strong as ASSJ as they were against 2nd Form Cell, and Goku is about as strong as he was against Suppressed Perfect Cell. You see it like this, Broly was as LSSJ at Full Power Perfect Cell´s level, you shouldn´t be surprised that they didn´t had a chance. Well, i made a little theory about this. I copy and paste it for you, i made it in the topic "Is Broly as Strong as Super-Perfect Cell" "I come to an conclusion on the Cell subject. Gohan grins and power´s up. Saying to Cell that he will avenge his father. Cell thinks that he is crazy. So, Gohan has the ability to sense chi. He power´s up, i think to 100% personally. Now being serious and all. SSJ 2 Gohan: 100%. Super Perfect Cell: 80 - 90% of Gohan´s SSJ 2 power. Cell was in my opinion relative close to Gohan´s fullest. Even though i´ve said that he is not in the last topic, i´ve red the manga again to the point were Cell returns. Gohan gets hit by a chi attack by Cell. Being hurt badly. I assume that Gohan lost half or close to half of his power. Gohan SSJ 2 {Hurt Badly}: 50 - 60% of his Power. Gohan losing his confidence, suddenly changes his mind and say´s that he has no chance. So, he goes 100% some minutes ago and gets confident. Then later he loses half of it and loses his confidence. Implying that Super Perfect Cell is extremely close to Gohan´s fullest. Therefor. Gohan SSJ 2 {Super Perfect Cell Arrival}: 20 - 30% of his power. IMO. Gohan SSJ 2 {After Powering up}: 100%. Super Perfect Cell {Confident to destroy earth}: 70 - 90% of Gohan´s SSJ 2 power. Gohan SSJ 2 {Badly Wounded}: 40 - 50% of his power. Teen Gohan SSJ 2 {Full Powered}: 70 - 90% of his former SSJ 2 power." You don´t need to agree with it of course, its just my view on it. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 15 2011, 09:03 PM Post #83 |
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Do I agree with it? No but, I do like it. Well looking at the Dates, my opinion is Broli is Cell's highest powered up state against SS2 Gohan (Not Buff Cell). Now Movie 10 Broli is still at SPC's power. The reasoning to this change was the air dates of the Cell Games and the Movie 8 release Date, until I looked I had no idea the movie was released right before the Episode Goku vs Cell. |
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| 1000redips | Feb 15 2011, 09:47 PM Post #84 |
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I'm not pointing to anyone specifically, but why does everyone think Gohan in Movie 10 is weaker than his kid self? Just because he was weaker than his kid self canon-wise doesn't mean he has to be in the movie. DBZ movies don't make any attempt to be consistent with the manga/anime and characters are haxed anyway. Also, didn't Gohan say he was stronger than the last time he fought Broly?
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| Saberoph | Feb 16 2011, 02:59 AM Post #85 |
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I can't believe I'm starting this up again but, you said it doesn't make sense that TOEI would use two different hair styles in Movie 10. However in the Majin Vegeta vs SS2 Goku, several times Goku's hair constantly changes from Goku's SS2 and SS hair, and both hair designs are switched back and forth in the filler scenes. |
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| + Pyrus | Feb 16 2011, 03:20 AM Post #86 |
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That's true. Although it's overall Toei's fault, it's the animation team's fault for being lazy and inconsistent. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 16 2011, 03:32 AM Post #87 |
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Yea that's my point, if that episode was so inconsistent (And that was part of the main show), then the movie can be just as inconsistent and lazy. Edit: Pyro, did you get my pm? Edited by Saberoph, Feb 16 2011, 03:35 AM.
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| Nusu | Feb 16 2011, 08:08 AM Post #88 |
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If they would´ve just used the *****ing lightning it would´ve have been so easy. |
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| Saberoph | Feb 16 2011, 01:47 PM Post #89 |
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Sort of, but then we would still be talking about two factors showing SS when only one would show SS2, so it would still be just as inconsistent. |
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| Nusu | Feb 16 2011, 03:02 PM Post #90 |
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Well, if the sparks would be added, then denying that Gohan was SSJ 2 would be ignorant. Sparks are the trademarks of a SSJ 2. |
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