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Majin Vegeta Vs Lssj broly (movie 10); Who would win this fight?
Topic Started: Feb 7 2011, 08:41 AM (14,290 Views)
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We'll I've said it over and over and will still say it. Toei are a bunch of Goku fanboys.

Edit: Its funny that what Hybrid brought up, it makes Broli weaker than what he's made out to be. Which means he would be weaker than Majin Vegeta and that also means he's weaker than SS2 Goku too...I love it. :lol:
Edited by Saberoph, Feb 18 2011, 10:33 PM.
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By the same token that good guys always win, all of the DBZ movies end in a similar fashion, making the fights very predictable and annoying to watch. If the Broly movie were made to fit the timeline better, the fight would probably go a lot differently, as I don't think the fight was based off Goku and Gohan's MSSJ forms. If so, Goku and Gohan should have been able to take Broly for a good majority of the fight, since they had gotten so powerful in the ROSAT.

I'm not of the belief that Broly is invulnerable or anything like that, I actually think his Ki just doubles every so often while fighting, giving his body greater resistance to physical and Ki based attacks. Hence why I made the Legendary Saiyan Feat (in my DB RPG) double Ki x2 every 1d4 turns.

But even if this is the case, (which it probably isn't, as the limitations I put on the Feat's activation and function are meant to ballance the game so players don't break encounters against seemingly more powerful character with a simple power boost) even Broly would have a limit to how much his Ki could increase while in his LSSJ form, and I often think of LSSJ as on equal footing as the SSJ2 transformation in terms of raw power boost (never minding Broly's strange Legendary ability).

I honestly think it'd be an even fight, but Vegeta's a strategic genius. His fights with Cell, Goku et all have taught him well; as seen at the end of the Buu Saga where he helps take down an enemy that he wouldn't be able to fight directly. Since Majin Vegeta isn't too far off from having the epiphany that he did later on in the saga, I'd say fighting Broly might help push him to that.

People often miss this about him, and I'd say Vegeta's wit far surpasses Broly's brawn. But then again, that's just me. Never really liked Broly as a villain, cause he didn't have much development after his power limiter got smashed, when they really could have done something special with him as far as emotional conflict goes.
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The only problem is, Broli was beaten by three MSS' one who's weaker than Goku, and Goten who's even weaker than Goku and Goku. With that happening, that means he was defeated by a power MUCH lower than Majin Vegeta and that beam battle proves it.
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How exactly? The beamīs combined should be already way stronger then their regular powerīs. Also, there is evidence showing that Goten could be close to Gohanīs power, for example, take the sparring training they had as SSJ. I strongly believe the Family Kamehameha wouldīve killed Vegeta if he hadn't a similar shield as Broly.
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Really? Goten was barely Cyborg arc level, so how could he be Gohan's level. You know there's no way, why don't you just accept defeat I mean really, I could be as brutal on this as hybrid was in the other topic...I don't think you want that.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Your arrogance is amusing.


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Come again? Laughable indeed, for your statement to work Gohan needs to be weaker then Goku MSSJ (Cell Games Arc), both were sparring indeed, both didnīt seem to give their all.


Not to forget. Haha. The Crčme de la Crčme, after the one-month-training, Gohan and Goten were sparring completely evenly.

Would you mind clicking on the tiny little posted Image, there you can see Gohan and Goten sweating and having some scratches, now they look pretty serious and being in a intense battle. I rest my case. Truly fun, indeed.
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Your arroganc is even more amusing to take Gohans play training with Gohan. Later it was then stated that Goten was the weakest, pretty convient you left that out.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

"Play training"? I excuse myself, your ignorance is amusing.

Where? Could you show me the line, or opinion?
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Wish I could, atm I'm on my phone but you know me, when I get home I will post all my proof and facts, I do deserve some credit though, I did bring up the bang argument before Hybrid did. :D

And just because I state something doesn't mean I'm ignorant. You know name calling is a sign of being immature.
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There are barely any facts, at least, if you donīt take the 18 vs the kids fight into account. Not to mention that 18 considered Goten and Trunks as Mighty Mask dangerous, and also we should take Gotenīs line to Trunks in account.

"Donīt use full force!". I would be happy, that you show me that fact or evidence.
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Trust me nothing would please me more, but I'm across town, my phone doesn't allow me to post pics or scan anything either. You know I would be on it if I could.

Your probably curious why I just don't say my facts, well I don't like to go that far until I check all my facts.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Yeah, i hate it when I`am at work, or studying and not at home and need to post something but i canīt. But, thatīs fine.
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Thanks for your understanding, but let's go with that scan for a minute there. Gohan was still weaker than his Cell Games self, not as much due to his one month training (I never said he didn't get stronger, just weaker than his younger self) and Goten is equal to him. That's still not that impressive, and if you still added all three together, if I was a betting man I would bet the combined pl is still weaker than Majin Vegeta.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

You should keep in mind, that Goten and Gohan combined their Kamehameha into one Kamehameha which has Gotenīs Kamehameha Power and Gohanīs Kamehameha power. Now we know beamīs like the Final Flash, Kamehameha, Special Beam Cannon etc. are often stronger then their userīs, this meanīs that the Kamehameha Gohan and Goten shot was even stronger then them (1x Boost for me), now Goku jumps in after his harsh training at the other-world now being even stronger then Kid Gohan MSSJ, shots another Kamehameha in, and gives the already strong Kamehameha a new boost, and then, after Brolyīs Omega Blast was weakened, Goku, Gohan and Goten give one more final push with all their strength into it, and shoot Broly off the planet right into the sun. You might think now "Yeah, so what?", what i mean is, that you kinda underrate the combined Kamehameha, i mean they literally combined it with three kamehamehaīs into one "Super" Kamehameha. That in my opinion couldīve even killed Majin SSJ 2 Vegeta when he wasnīt using a similar shield as Broly. That is how i see it.
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Not even reading your argument, I stand corrected with the gap between LSS Broli and Majin Vegeta being so huge. I still do believe Majin Vegeta would win but, I believe the deciding factor would Vegeta's experience and Broli's lack of intelligence. Broli would be stupid enough to think he can take on a Big Bang or Final Flash.

If your wondering what changed my mind was indeed pl's that makes sense to me. I believe the combined pl of the three SS' is 310,000,000. And place Majin Vegeta at 365,000,000.
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