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Majin Vegeta Vs Lssj broly (movie 10); Who would win this fight?
Topic Started: Feb 7 2011, 08:41 AM (14,292 Views)
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Yes it is non-cannon, but even for it not being cannon its too unrealistic even for those standards.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

How exactly? There is nothing indicating that Gohan got that much weaker, it isn´t absurd at all, frankly, it would be absurd to say he lost nearly more then half of his power, just because he didn´t trained.

It´s just a plot-device nothing more. We don´t know much about Broly´s chemistry, and his zenkai-gains might increase more then by the regular Saiyan.
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What I said was it's unrealistic for Broli to get THAT much of a Zenkai even for non-cannon standards.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

We can also not explain why Broly became an Full Power Perfect Cell tier with nearly no training. Broly is different from other Saiyan´s.
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Well I can buy he was born with the power we saw in Movie 8, but I cannot and will not buy that he gets a bigger Zenkai than Cell. Not only is that beyond non-cannon DBZ standards but, it would mean he gets the largest Zenkai in DBZ history which just fuels Brolitards and gives them another reason to think Broli is more powerful than what he is.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

He had a power-level of 10.000 when he was born, he was not born with it. You think Cell´s boost was small? Gohan toyed with him, when he was just in his regular Perfect Form at Full Power, the zenkai was quite huge, considering that he thought he could beat Gohan SSJ 2 now. He is power-level is even in my book relative close to Gohan´s SSJ 2 power from the Cell Arc.
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I never said Cell's Zenkai was small, and I also do believe SPC was equal to SS2 Gohan in that arc, Cell's Zenkai was huge, I just don't see someone like Broli getting a bigger Zenkai to a villain who was WAY better than him, at-least Cell didn't go around screaming GOKUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

I know Broli wasn't born with that power, I just said I would buy that before I buy that kind of Zenkai, I know it was Broli's rage that pushed his power to that height, and that was over many years.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Broly can´t just gain power because he gets angry. That´s like saying Vegeta gets angry and suddenly gets stronger, it´s like an Hulk effect.

I doubt it actually, Gohan was ready to beat the ***** out of Cell after he returned, and like i stated in my theory, Gohan can sense chi.

You should keep in mind, there is nothing indicating that Broly was actually using full force against the Z-Fighter´s during their first meeting. Broly´s sociopathic personality is an evidence for it.
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Just because he enjoys watching other suffer doesn't mean he was holding back, if that was the case then every villain who was in the same circumstances would be holding back.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Why? Frieza held back most of his power against Goku and so did Cell. Only against the real threat they went Full Power. The Z-fighter´s weren´t a threat for Broly, they were "Insects".
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Broli was shocked with Goku's final power up in Movie 8, his instincts would overcome his pleasure for pain, and we would have powered up if he was holding back...That's also common sense in DBZ Movies.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Not if it is a poorly invented Plot-Device, made by Toei to make Goku win. He was shocked but still charged forward and tryed to kill him, so, he certainly was surprised but so was Cell during Goku´s "Blitz" Kamehameha. He was even scared that Goku destroy´s earth, meanwhile he could´ve easily went to 100% and kill Goku or tank the Kamehameha.
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There's only one big problem though...Neither Goku or Gohan's aura was the same as in the Cell Games when they fought Broli, Goku's aura only resembled his Cell Game MSS aura AFTER he gathered everyone's energy and powered up. That gives even more reason to believe at that last moment Goku wielded his Cell Games MSS power, if that's the case Goku could be holding back too. But that would mean Broli could sense it and weakened him quick enough to prevent Goku from powering up to 100%, if that's the case then Broli has the intelligence to know when to power up or not.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

SSJ Aura = MSSJ Aura, if you could show me one difference between the MSSJ Aura and the SSJ Aura then please do so, otherwise, i can´t believe it, no offense, but the MSSJ is just mastering a form, not a new form.
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MSS is not just mastering it, but a higher powered up form too. The aaura is more violent, in between SS and SS2, we saw this in the Cell Games, how violent it was.

In Movie at the end Goku's aura is more violent than a regular SS, but not as violent as SS2.
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