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ssj2 teen gohan vs lssj broly movie 8
Topic Started: Feb 4 2011, 10:59 PM (4,726 Views)
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I'm sure he was FP unless we get a cheap excuse saying he wasn't in "Rage" mode ala SSJ2 Gohan. But yeah that pretty much makes sense.
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LSSj Broly in movie 8 is stronger than Perfect Cell (full power) but considerably weaker than SPC. SSj2 Chibi Gohan would thrash him rather easily. LSSj Broly would fare better than Perfect Cell (full power), but, considering Cell was throttled with ease... Well, Broly might last a bit longer is all. LSSj Broly from movie 8 vs. "Adult" or rather, more accurately, SSj2 Teen Gohan would be much more interesting, but, Gohan would still win. It would be a good match, though.

Broly's abilities are an advantage, but I don't think, contrary to others' opinions, that Gohan lost ridiculous amounts of power over the years, so, he'd still have quite an edge.

SSj2 Chibi Gohan vs. LSSj Broly (movie 8) = Broly gets roflstomped.
SSj2 Teen Gohan vs. LSSj Broly (movie 8) = Not as one-sided, but, Broly still loses.
SSj2 Chibi Gohan vs. LSSj Broly (movie 10) =

Broly win. I honestly don't think Gohan lost a huge amount of power (my guess is 20%) over the years. Considering SSj2 Teen Gohan was pretty defenseless against Broly, going down in 3 hits, I don't think Chibi Gohan would be able to do much more.

I'm sure he might be able to phase Broly a bit and would last longer, but, would still lose and not really be a real threat to Broly at all. I still hold firm to my belief that Broly in movie 10 could take out SSj2 Goku or Vegeta and is close to Mr. Boo in power.

SSj2 Teen Gohan vs. LSSj Broly (movie 10) =

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Feb 5 2011, 09:10 PM
Sorry, i didn´t know you mean FPPC with SPC. There is no statement by toei, and we putted Broly like this since it was logical to us, but i always said that i doubt that Broly was actually Full Power, he didn´t seemed like it, for me at least.
I think the fact that he reached his peak and had to expel excess chi was the sign that he constantly was at full. At least that's how I took it.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Broly´s body couldn´t handle the amount of chi he generated and recovered. That´s how i see it. And if you mean chi means power, then Broly´s power is actually rising. ;)
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broly gets stomped in worse fashion than fp perfect cell

"Considering SSj2 Teen Gohan was pretty defenseless against Broly, going down in 3 hits"
right after dealing out some damage and stunning broly with a knee to the face, driving him back and breaking out of his hold with pure strength. plus i dont think teen gohan used ssj2 on broly. for one, he admits he hasnt powered up at all since movie 8 and that broly is as evil as ever.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

He didn´t even do permanent damage. This is like Goku SSJ 3 hurting Janemba, heck even Vegeta was able to flurry Fat Buu, and Fat Buu is far, far ahead of Vegeta.

Actually, Gohan is saying in the Movie that he should be stronger by now. Possible plot hole?

Overall, not doing any damage at all, just pushing him back. Isn´t even valid enough to prove Broly to be on SPC level. Teen Gohan SSJ 2 should be about equal with SPC, IMO. And if they ever fought they should be about equal in terms of combat. Broly totally dominated Gohan, pressing his face to the ground, "tanking" most of his hits, tanking a straight punch. Meanwhile, Gohan was only able to stun Broly or pushing him back, meanwhile we aren´t even aware if Broly used Full Power against Gohan.
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Feb 6 2011, 06:52 AM
broly gets stomped in worse fashion than fp perfect cell

"Considering SSj2 Teen Gohan was pretty defenseless against Broly, going down in 3 hits"
right after dealing out some damage and stunning broly with a knee to the face, driving him back and breaking out of his hold with pure strength. plus i dont think teen gohan used ssj2 on broly. for one, he admits he hasnt powered up at all since movie 8 and that broly is as evil as ever.
Damage? What damage? Surprised Broly, yes. That's all he managed to do. In fact, he didn't pull out of Broly's hold at all. He just managed to barely maneuver himself forward and pushed him off. He caught him by surprise. Woohoo.

Of course you don't, you hate Broly. Despite all the evidence to the contrary, including notes from Toriyama himself, you're biased. Oh well.

I'm surprised nobody liked my little image above, lmao.
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Goohan would beat broly in movie 8... which he already did but got pretty creamed in movie 10
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lol majin vegeta proved in the buu fight that he could easily kill buu at the power level buu was using in the gohan fight. In thhe gohan fight, buu instantly takes out the same gohan Broly fought in one punch. Broly, even movie 10 Broly, is nothing compared to ssj2 teen Gohan. Loom at the swirling ki trans and lack of ssj2 aura/sparks. Gohan is in his buu saga ssj2 form, not his buu saga full ssj2 form like he used at the tournsment AFTER WATCHING VIDEL GET TORTURED. full ssj2 gohan would easily beat dabura, normal = dabura. So id say the Gohan Broly rapes in movie 10 is only somewhat stronger than fpcell.
Now guys, lssj is not that strong. look at movie 8, he was already much stronger than them in normal ssj mode, the power gain he got from going lssj is nowhere near the power level gain Gohan got when he went ssj2 in cell games. Broly stands no chance in any movie against a strong ssj2 like teen Gohan

And for the last time, Broly movie 8 is no match for Full power cell, let alone spcell. full power cell is equal in power to gohan when he fought the cell juniors and wasn't even trying. Fp Cell could also easily kill the entire z fighter team each with one punch, and was much stronger than goku when he beat Broly. If u want proof, go to youtube, look up yoyepo91, and watch my video on how strong is fpcell? The problem is that the anime show misrepresents their power and makes it seem like the cell juniors lasted a little while against gohan, which is completely false. and whoever said Broly stands a chance against buu, hell no, fat buu is slightly weaker than ssj3. he'd kill Broly like he was nothing
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In thhe gohan fight, buu instantly takes out the same gohan Broly fought in one punch.

Gohan was a Super Saiyan against Majin Boo. He was a Super Saiyan 2 against Broly.
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Broly, even movie 10 Broly, is nothing compared to ssj2 teen Gohan.

Really? Because he beat that Gohan.
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Loom at the swirling ki trans and lack of ssj2 aura/sparks.

Sparks mean nothing in movies. I don't see what the swirling transformation has to do with it.
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Gohan is in his buu saga ssj2 form, not his buu saga full ssj2 form like he used at the tournsment AFTER WATCHING VIDEL GET TORTURED.

There is no "full" Super Saiyan 2 form. There is only Super Saiyan 2. You're transformed or you're not.
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Cell Games SS2 Gohan wins this, but as everyone else said he would lose in Movie 10.
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Feb 26 2011, 04:04 PM
Cell Games SS2 Gohan wins this, but as everyone else said he would lose in Movie 10.
So Broly(Movie 10) can theoretical beat Full Power Perfect Cell? If you're statement above is true that is.
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I believe Movie 8 Broli to be around if not equal Full Power Perfect Cell, but in Movie 10 to be somewhere in the gap of SS2 Cell Games Gohan and Majin Vegeta.

Yes I know that's a huge Zenka, but I won't believe Broli is higher than Majin Vegeta. Besides look at Movie 10, SS2 Gohan was able to stun Broli, and he was running on at least 30% of his Cell Games power, so add a 30% increase to that hit, and Broli should be stunned even more...perhaps even hurt him a little, so if that's true then a 45% or 55% increase to Movie 10 would be enough to kill Broli.

That's how I see it.
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http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8410747/1/
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http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8543860/1/
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Feb 26 2011, 09:10 PM
I believe Movie 8 Broli to be around if not equal Full Power Perfect Cell, but in Movie 10 to be somewhere in the gap of SS2 Cell Games Gohan and Majin Vegeta.

Yes I know that's a huge Zenka, but I won't believe Broli is higher than Majin Vegeta. Besides look at Movie 10, SS2 Gohan was able to stun Broli, and he was running on at least 30% of his Cell Games power, so add a 30% increase to that hit, and Broli should be stunned even more...perhaps even hurt him a little, so if that's true then a 45% or 55% increase to Movie 10 would be enough to kill Broli.

That's how I see it.
Could it be said that he's around Kibito? Or are Kibito and Kiaoshin stronger then SS2 Goku and Majin Vegeta? I don't think they are.
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What does Kibito have to do with Broli? You lost me there...
Batman Arkham Games Discussion.
http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8487015/1/
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http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8408853/1/
Dragon Ball Game Talk.
http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8410747/1/
Dragon Ball Game Talk 2.0
http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8543860/1/
My Broli Idea.
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8716209&t=8374201
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http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8561069/1/

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