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Why were the andriods stronger in the present timeline?
Topic Started: Jan 31 2011, 02:35 PM (9,948 Views)
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Clearin
Sep 4 2012, 04:59 PM
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Sep 4 2012, 04:57 PM
But then would you ignore a direct statement from #17 that said that he wasn't even using half of his full power in the last fight? The Mirai Androids' full powers were never shown.
He said that against Gohan. We never saw Trunks final fight with the Androids, we literally just saw him fly off, then the next panel was him in hospital. For all we know the Androids did use full power vs him.
I wont deny that possibility.

Although personally, I don't see that Trunks being anywhere near double the strength of Gohan.
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He doesn't need to be.

Future 17 only "didn't use half his power" in the previous fights they had, which we also didn't see; He may have gotten considerably stronger since then. When Gohan fought them for the final time he assumed he could beat both Androids at the same time with 1 arm, so the power chain could easily fit like this:
Future 17 > Future 18 > SSj Future Trunks > SSj Future Gohan > less than half power 17 > SSj Future Gohan (Previous fights).
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Clearin
Sep 4 2012, 05:04 PM
He doesn't need to be.

Future 17 only "didn't use half his power" in the previous fights they had, which we also didn't see; He may have gotten considerably stronger since then. When Gohan fought them for the final time he assumed he could beat both Androids at the same time with 1 arm, so the power chain could easily fit like this:
Future 17 > Future 18 > SSj Future Trunks > SSj Future Gohan > less than half power 17 > SSj Future Gohan (Previous fights).
Future 18 didn't step into the fight unlike in the movie that was a strictly 1v1 between future 17 and Gohan, and yes it wa shinted that 17 did use FP on his last fight with Gohan because he said "you won't me escaping again." or something along those lines. Either way since Trunks fight with the future cyborgs were never shown it is safe to assume he just misunderstood their power.
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also, future #18 > future trunks (android saga) > goku (post yardrat) > future trunks (trunks saga) > future gohan.

#17 may or may not have used his full power against gohan in their last fight, but he certainly didn't need to, since gohan may not have even been as powerful as frieza.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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Jan 31 2011, 06:56 PM
I think Cell's presence may have caused some changes too. When Trunks returns to the past he can't understand how so many things have changed. Then when they discover cell I think I remember him saying something about how Cell's presence may explain some things. Not sure how though to be honest. All he did was bury himself in the ground for a few years.
cell has everything to do with it, geros computer created cell and it thought it was gero, and, think about this, what did cell say, how was he made, from samples of every fighter since the trunks saga, the spy fly collected the samples, possibly saw all the fights, possibly even heard the whole convo with goku, maby when it got back the computer knew what was going on, or gero, saw and heard everything the fly saw and it forced him to create more, and mede everything stronger........my theory
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I thought the spy bots collected data and cells leading up to Goku and Vegeta's fight on earth only? Idk if Gero would've seen or heard everything that the z fighters had when Trunks/Piccolo explained what was going to happen in 3 years or else Dr. Gero wouldn't have been surprised when Goku turned a super saiyan and wouldn't have been surprised when Piccolo told him that they were preparing for him.



Ducks!? That makes no sense, what do you mean?



Yamcha DUUUCK!!
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When in doubt blame goku. Remember he dies quite early on in the other timeline
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ok "sora", i did not think of that, maby i did, you wouldn't know anyways LOL, just kidding, but, yeah, thats the only thing i can think of, or, in the alternate timeline, the androids held back so they ccould have fun, the prsent androids was a little irritated, and gave it a little more...?
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Doesn't Trunks say Vegeta could beat the Future Androids?

I think the Future Andorids= SSJ Goku and Vegeta(Android saga).

And Gohan> Trunks up to Android saga.
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