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Was Gogeta a SSJ or a SSJ2?
Topic Started: Jan 24 2011, 07:31 PM (2,520 Views)
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Wasn't Vegeta in SSJ2 when he fought janemba? So he had to when he fused Goku right?
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Sasuke
Apr 19 2011, 05:45 PM
Wasn't Vegeta in SSJ2 when he fought janemba? So he had to when he fused Goku right?
When they fused they were both in Base.
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NeoSSayajin
Apr 19 2011, 05:53 PM
Sasuke
Apr 19 2011, 05:45 PM
Wasn't Vegeta in SSJ2 when he fought janemba? So he had to when he fused Goku right?
When they fused they were both in Base.
Then why did he go straight to SSJ at fusion? I haven't watch this movie in a long time is why.
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Because they felt like it? Lol, I dunno. It wouldn't have been as interesting to see Base Gogeta defeat the Big Bad. Toei's all about money and entertainment.
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Apr 19 2011, 05:55 PM
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Apr 19 2011, 05:53 PM
Sasuke
Apr 19 2011, 05:45 PM
Wasn't Vegeta in SSJ2 when he fought janemba? So he had to when he fused Goku right?
When they fused they were both in Base.
Then why did he go straight to SSJ at fusion? I haven't watch this movie in a long time is why.
I dont really know, when Gogeta emerged he was already in his SSJ state.
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Where they trying to follow the manga Vegito as the Anime Vegito made a mockery out of he's villain in base. I guess they need him to go SSJ.
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The same way gotenks fused as a ssj3 the 3rd and last time they fused canon wise. They thought it and went ssj3 or ssj while fusing I guess. Plus there was no sparks and the video games have him as ssj.
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Sasuke
Apr 19 2011, 05:45 PM
Wasn't Vegeta in SSJ2 when he fought janemba? So he had to when he fused Goku right?
It depends on how you interpret Vegeta's hairstyle, because you can say it's either of the two. Toei wasn't very good about being clear on hairstyles.

And as for the topic, Gogeta was MSS, his hair is far too lose to be SS2, and if you take Veku's hair as Gogeta's, then that would actually confirm Gogeta being MSS.
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Sasuke
Apr 19 2011, 05:59 PM
Where they trying to follow the manga Vegito as the Anime Vegito made a mockery out of he's villain in base. I guess they need him to go SSJ.
gogeta was created before vegito. that's why movie 12 doesn't follow the timeline, because the timeline wasn't complete yet, and toei did some guessing.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Apr 19 2011, 10:31 PM
Sasuke
Apr 19 2011, 05:59 PM
Where they trying to follow the manga Vegito as the Anime Vegito made a mockery out of he's villain in base. I guess they need him to go SSJ.
gogeta was created before vegito. that's why movie 12 doesn't follow the timeline, because the timeline wasn't complete yet, and toei did some guessing.
Are you sure? How did they know of Ultimate Gohan then? Or SSJ3 Gotenks?
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I don't think Gohan was Ultimate in Movie 12.
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And Gotenks didn't use Super Saiyan 3 in Movie 12 either.

It's true what Lunar said. Toriyama had stated that in an interview.
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Well, before we saw MSS Gotenks, Gohan was in the ritual receiving his Ultimate Gohan, and Elder Kaioshin wouldn't just stop and not finish it.

And the ritual started before Gotenks was born, so it makes sense for Gohan to be Ultimate.
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Well, true, this would be around the time that Old Kai is released I think. But the reason why I think he can't be ultimate is because of his hair. It's not the same.
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Only two of Gohan's bangs change that's it. And Elder Kaioshin starts the ritual before Goten and Trunks fuse, so for Gotenks to be there, Gohan has to be Ultimate.

And at the end of the Boo arc, Gohan's hair is back to where it was at the beginning of the Boo arc.
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