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| A Couple Questions; Things I've wondered about the series | |
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| SSJ4Gogeta17 | Nov 19 2010, 06:36 PM Post #1 |
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Just a few questions here. Can anyone explain to me how Gotenks was able to skip SSJ2? Or if he didn't, why is he never shown in this form? Also, when in the show does Goku officially reach SSJ2? And correct me if I'm wrong but Vegeta reached SSJ2 because of Babidi's magic. |
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| SSJ4Gogeta17 | Nov 19 2010, 06:45 PM Post #2 |
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i also forgot to ask, did trunks ever get to ssj2? if he did, when? |
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| Gigacrusher | Nov 19 2010, 06:45 PM Post #3 |
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Gotenks sort of did a warp transformation. He went from SSJ to SSJ2 (lightning and muscle increase) to SSJ3 (long hair). Goku and Vegeta mastered SSJ2 over the time gap. Trunks never officially goes FULL SSJ2 only......from what people call it......ultra ssj. Whatever people call the mini-level between ssj and ssj2. Edited by Gigacrusher, Nov 19 2010, 06:46 PM.
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| majinbuum | Nov 19 2010, 06:50 PM Post #4 |
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good one! Gotenks was able to skip ssj2 because his abilities are seemingly based on mimickry. he saw goku turn ssj3 and then gotenks instantly knew how to turn ssj3. at least this is what I thought I heard. therefore, he didn't know how to adjust his power level to reach a desired state of ssj. I thought babdi's magic was a power BOOST to his ssj2 form because it awakened the darkness inside of him, allowing him not to hold back when he transformed. This is why he was able to knock goku out in the end. Since goku and vegeta have always been equal in power, it would appear that babidi's magic merely enhanced vegeta's SSJ2 form. Thought this is debateable (duh, obviously) since we never see him transform into ssj2 before babidi's magic. apologies if im mixed up. |
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| SSJ4Gogeta17 | Nov 19 2010, 06:51 PM Post #5 |
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yeah ive read different things about goku and vegeta going SSJ2 and i knew that trunks went USSJ but why then in the budokai games can he go SSJ2? |
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| SSJ4Gogeta17 | Nov 19 2010, 06:52 PM Post #6 |
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@majinbuum, that does seem pretty logical, and i have read that babidi enhanced and caused his SSJ2 state in different places |
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| majinbuum | Nov 19 2010, 06:53 PM Post #7 |
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hmmm...ive only seen gotenks (black hair), ssj gotenks (blonde hair), and ssj3 gotenks (obvious). |
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| SSJ4Gogeta17 | Nov 19 2010, 07:06 PM Post #8 |
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thats what im saying. i never saw ssj2 gotenks. im also confused as to why i can go ssj2 with sword trunks in the budokai games |
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| lunar2 | Nov 19 2010, 07:11 PM Post #9 |
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gotenks transforms through ssj2 while powering up to ssj3, but never actually fights as an ssj2, because its not a dramatic trans, and gotenks is very dramatic. also, gotenks fully mastered ssj3, which is why he can sustain it with minimal energy loss for the full 30 minute fusion, and as soon as he defuses and waits an hour, he can refuse as a ssj3 again. goku and vegeta both reach ssj2 during the time skip, but goku was slightly more powerful, so vegeta got spelled in order to get the powerboost as well as awaken the evil within him. |
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| Nusu | Nov 19 2010, 07:11 PM Post #10 |
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Actually, Vegeta was already able to go SSJ 2 before the Majin Boost, Vegeta states it when Goku powers up against Yakon, were he turns SSJ 2. Vegeta says "Did he also reached the next level?" or something smiliar. To your next question, the same thing why was Gohan able to skip SSJ 2 in the tournament saga against Kibito, he just can he dosen´t need to go Super Saiyan since he already reached the next level. You can also often see Goku reaching SSJ 3 in an instant in the manga. So basically. Gotenks didn´t had any need to go SSJ 2 against Super Buu which would be useless anyways. Edited by Nusu, Nov 19 2010, 07:12 PM.
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| SSJ4Gogeta17 | Nov 19 2010, 07:20 PM Post #11 |
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thanks guys. this just begs the question now of how can gotenks reach ssj3 when neither goten or trunks were able to reach even ssj2? i know that as gotenks they met the power requirement, but doesnt at least one party have to be able to reach ssj3 for the fusion to be able to? |
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| ryanson209 | Nov 19 2010, 07:30 PM Post #12 |
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I think it's their combined power that lets them reach it. |
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| SSJ4Gogeta17 | Nov 19 2010, 07:33 PM Post #13 |
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right i know that but i could have sworn i read somewhere that for the fused being to reach a level of transformation, at least one of the ones fusing has to be able to do it too |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 19 2010, 09:07 PM Post #14 |
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Gotenks has Super Saiyan 2, like Lunar2 said. Just wasn't the right time to use it. We have no idea when exactly Goku reached Super Saiyan 2 but it was during the 7 years of peace. Vegeta also reached the form through harsh training. There is absolutely no debating that he did it. Vegeta heavily implies it with his statements and the guidebooks also state he could do it before Bobbidi came along. |
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Nov 19 2010, 09:50 PM Post #15 |
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Gotenks can go ssj2. During the time after cell but before buu Goku reached ssj 2. The last question, I dunno. |
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