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| Whats one thing you dislike about dragonball z | |
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| Kingpin | Nov 10 2010, 04:15 PM Post #1 |
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One thing i disliked about dragonball z is that they dont have a fighting style, or at least they dont place any emphasis on fighting styles. with out a fighting style you have no strategy and if you have no strategy, you lose battles. but in dbz no one uses a strategy, its all pure power. whenever an opponent with incredible power approaches, there only hope is train till they are overflowing with enough power to take down their foe, which is not good because it limits the amount of characters toriyamma uses in battles. but if a strategy is implemented instead of overpowering the ssjs, maybe the extra characters like tien can be incorporated in battles as well that way we can shy away from seeing vegeta get the crap kicked out of him and goku being the savior 20 times in a row. the only times i witnessed a strategy in dbz was piccolo n goku vs raditz, thats the only p;anned out strategy in dbz.... every other one was by mistake or just to gather more power. like when vegeta and goku fought kid buu but then again that relyed also on pure power. the second time was the kamehameha struggle between cell and gohan with vegeta and the z warriors interfereing but then again that wasnt planned out. Edited by Kingpin, Nov 10 2010, 06:39 PM.
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| Wintergreen5000 | Nov 10 2010, 04:40 PM Post #2 |
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Yes, I agree. Toriyama for some reason downplayed the importance of the fighting styles themselves and the actual strategic aspect of combat and replaced it with mere scrapping. Not only that, but it was always about becoming stronger to defeat your foe. There should have been more emphasis on using different fighting styles, and using smart strategies, instead of going into the fight hoping to just react to your opponents movements and expect to come out on top. |
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| Chonga | Nov 10 2010, 05:20 PM Post #3 |
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I guess it all comes down to what u call a party.I believe in the saiyan saga piccolo thought up of a plan to attack nappa by having krillin distract him, piccolo grabbing his tail and gohan firing an energy blast but that failed. I think i recall from dragonball in the tenkaiichi of tien vs goku where tien says that goku is stronger than him but isnt faster and changes his stratergy from brute force to try and use his speed to his advantage. Piccolo vs 17 where he uses the guided scattered shot. Now although these are all minor and they never went into a battle with a stratergy they did devise them during the battles. Main one i forgot was Cell games there was a stratergy goign into that, atleast in the anime i cant vouge for the manga. Goku fights cell before gohan so that gohan would learn cells fighting style, ide definatly call that a stratergy |
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| Kingpin | Nov 10 2010, 06:37 PM Post #4 |
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but as you said, they were all thought out in the heat of battle, and they also turn to plan things during battle because they couldnt over power the bad guy. im just saying... whenever theres a bad guy, the next thing you would here is lets train! not plan anything but lets get more powerful! leaving tien, krillin, yamcha, the clown and even mr. popo out of the picture! |
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| ryanson209 | Nov 10 2010, 08:01 PM Post #5 |
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They did have fighting styles at the beginning. I mean, they weren't of importance -- just "Hey, I'm turtle school! I trained under this guy, learned this move, thus I use this style." ======= One thing I really dislike is the whole plethora of characters who are slightly important, and then fade into the background. Yeah, the Saiyans are the main characters and they're awesome, but what about the other guys? I also dislike when sections of the fan-base argue amongst each other over which version of the show they like, as if their opinions were fact. "No, the Japanese is obviously superior." "When FUNimation took over, it was all uphill." "Ocean Dub was better -- the voices all fit." Edited by ryanson209, Nov 10 2010, 08:10 PM.
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| + Pyrus | Nov 10 2010, 08:38 PM Post #6 |
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I disliked how it was always some new transformation that saved the day, or the Genki Dama. Raditz - Exception. Vegeta - Exception, but the Genki Dama did play a big part in dismantling him. Freeza - Super Saiyan and the Genki Dama double-play. Cell - Super Saiyan Grades 2 & 3, Super Saiyan 2. I know it was the Kamehameha that killed him, but without Super Saiyan 2 it would've never worked in the first place. Majin Boo - Super Saiyan 3 and/or Genki Dama. Edited by Pyrus, Nov 10 2010, 08:39 PM.
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| deploy | Nov 10 2010, 11:38 PM Post #7 |
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Kaioken, don't get me wrong, I love Kaioken, it's pure awesomeness , but once Kaioken was brought into the picture there was no way for Goku to fight a battle on even grounds with anyone else, it's being the underdog or the stomper all the time.Actually even without the Kaioken, and throughout all of DBZ, battles are mostly done that way, which is something I don't like, it was better in Dragonball IMO. Super Saiyans, bringing in the SSJ transformations excluded the humans completely (I personally like it better that way, it's just the natural order of things). Fusion, and again, not that I don't like fusion itself, it's jut that fusion is HAX, every foe can be beaten by it, they could (or should) just spam it all the time. |
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| J-Smack | Nov 11 2010, 12:44 AM Post #8 |
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The fact that the Genki Dama never worked until the end. |
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| 1000redips | Nov 11 2010, 02:19 AM Post #9 |
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I don't like how weak they made Vegeta look. He trains so hard and yet he's always outclassed. Such as when his rampage against Super Perfect Cell didn't do jack, or when he fought Majin Buu.
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| Kingpin | Nov 11 2010, 03:38 AM Post #10 |
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U should count kaio ken as a transformation and the oozuro form was a huge impact by from gohan. |
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| Doodification | Nov 11 2010, 04:48 AM Post #11 |
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the part i dislike? The fighters yelling for half an episode and taking two episodes to stare eachother down and power up |
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| DaLucster72 | Nov 11 2010, 09:59 AM Post #12 |
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I don't like how Goku always somehow has to leave at the end of each series. Why can't he just stay with his family? Why does he have to die, or go somewhere else? |
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| Fulgore | Nov 11 2010, 10:19 AM Post #13 |
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Gohan didn't end the Buu Saga.. As for the whole fighting styles? Yes they all have unique fighting styles.. Martial arts would rarely play into fights where you're moving at UNGODLY speeds. But, each fighter has a priority in fights. Broly for example, tanks hits so he can get a hit through.. Dodging is obviously not his priority. |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 11 2010, 12:42 PM Post #14 |
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I was going to count Kaio-ken in the Nappa battle, but he wasn't the main villain. |
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| Ussj Future Trunks | Nov 11 2010, 03:33 PM Post #15 |
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the bull***** plot holes and dub errors. im sick of youtube comments and their "omg kid buus teh strongest". there are alot of other things but this is the main one. and the lapse of intelligence on the part of the characters ALL THE TIME. dbz is full of "why didnt they just.." |
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, but once Kaioken was brought into the picture there was no way for Goku to fight a battle on even grounds with anyone else, it's being the underdog or the stomper all the time.




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