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| + Pyrus | Nov 6 2010, 10:51 PM Post #16 |
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He doesn't. He catches him off-guard. |
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| Kingpin | Nov 7 2010, 01:31 AM Post #17 |
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He caught cell of guard with a sorta.... kaio ken attack (his version). |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Nov 7 2010, 04:37 PM Post #18 |
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A suppressed Cell no less. |
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| Emperor Cold | Nov 8 2010, 06:44 AM Post #19 |
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But Pikkon was prepared to go to Hell by himself and settle things single-handedly. He was completely confident that he could take care of Cell, Freeza and the others. Grand Kai, who surely would've known how powerful Cell was, gave Pikkon the order not Goku. Therefore Pikkon is probably at least a bit stronger than Cell. Either that or villains become much weaker upon entering Hell, which would also explain why the Ginyu Force was defeated by the humans and why Broly didn't completely wreck the place. I think if Pikkon and Goku fought as soon as Goku arrived at the Grand Kai's planet, Pikkon would've raped Goku. But since Goku had a full month to train at one of the best training grounds in the entire Other World, I think it's entirely possible for him to have increased his power beyond Cell in time for the tournament. In any case, I think Goku would've improved a lot more in a month than Pikkon, since Pikkon had already been training there a very long time and had possibly reached his peak. |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Nov 8 2010, 06:57 AM Post #20 |
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Mmm...The Supreme Kai didn't know how powerful Goku and the others were. Why is Grand Kai, who is supposed to be a step below the Supreme Kai, any more capable? How should he know of Cell's full power. King Kai didn't even notice the terror of the androids and Cell either. I highly doubt and consider otherwise that Grand Kai didn't know how powerful Cell was, truly. He knew there was a threat, and in Otherworld Pikkon was the best, supposedly. So, he thought he'd be able to naturally handle the situation. Pikkon's being chosen for the task says nothing about Grand Kai having any kind of understanding about Cell's true power. |
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| + Ryebrid | Nov 8 2010, 07:02 AM Post #21 |
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I think its very probably that they lose their power cause they are dead right? If Cell kept his power he'd blow the whole darn place up just like Freeza would. Its obvious they lose their power but not all of it. They go through that cleanser thing which probably takes a good deal of their energy away. And if you go canon... they shouldnt even have bodies LOL |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Nov 8 2010, 07:08 AM Post #22 |
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Well, for the sake of the anime, they don't go through any cleansers; that's part of the canonical testament. I don't see how they would lose any power. They have the same power as when they were alive. |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 8 2010, 07:09 AM Post #23 |
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It's weird how they're all able to be contained in Hell if they don't lose any power. That's some crazy good security. |
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| + Ryebrid | Nov 8 2010, 07:12 AM Post #24 |
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Yeah it kinda doesnt make sense LOL Goku and everyone struggled so much and when they finally die its like effortless security. I still think there's some sort of conditions when their in hell |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Nov 8 2010, 07:14 AM Post #25 |
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That's because it's a spiritual realm, not a physical one. |
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| lunar2 | Nov 8 2010, 07:28 AM Post #26 |
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i think, for one thing, that the differences between races is much smaller in the afterlife, aside from transformations and the like. for one thing, according to GT, everyone regenerates like buu if they are dead. also, dead bodies seem to have some baseline strength and durability that replaces the natural racial traits. it would make sense that the bodies of those sent to hell would be weaker than those who earned their spot with the kais |
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list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god | |
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| Kingpin | Nov 8 2010, 07:11 PM Post #27 |
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I think you guys are wrong but allow me to explain.... It seems that you guys are forgetting that goku asked king yamma the Same question and got a different answer. Goku asked if king yamma had any problems with raditz in hell and he answered yes, I'm not sure of the exact quote but he sorta said that they are actually weakened before entering hell. |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Nov 9 2010, 12:45 AM Post #28 |
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Well. Proof is needed...
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| + Pelador | Nov 9 2010, 01:24 AM Post #29 |
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I though Yamma just said he got Radditz in his "Yamma Lock." |
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| Wintergreen5000 | Nov 9 2010, 01:33 AM Post #30 |
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King Yemma said that he beat Raditz. Nothing on Raditz being weaker. |
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