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Kai o Ken
Topic Started: Nov 2 2010, 02:48 AM (2,499 Views)
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No not nuff said, because goku learned it with a power level of less than 12,000, by the namekian saga piccolo was 3x stronger than goku was at the time he learned the kaio ken...... and I could also believe that tien and krillin were around the same power level of goku when he trained with king kai
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It has nothing to do with power levels

If your body cant handle it then you cant have it, that simple.

No one else had a body like Goku. Goku was ale to withstand the uproar of energy and SUSTAIN it without it having to much effect on his body.

NOT EVEN KING KAI COULD MASTER KAIOKEN AND HE'S A GOD

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No not nuff said, because goku learned it with a power level of less than 12,000, by the namekian saga piccolo was 3x stronger than goku was at the time he learned the kaio ken...... and I could also believe that tien and krillin were around the same power level of goku when he trained with king kai
Yeah, but Goku also did a Kamehameha after seeing it once. My point - not everyone can learn everything.
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Goku is nothing but the teachers pet.
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Goku is the chosen one

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I agree with DbzHybrid.
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...Gohan is the chosen one. Akira has stated it numerous times!
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But he did state that he felt Gohan just didn't fit the hero role so he chose Goku to fight Kid Boo.
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Nov 5 2010, 12:01 AM
But he did state that he felt Gohan just didn't fit the hero role so he chose Goku to fight Kid Boo.
We all know that if it came down to it, it'd of ended at the Super Buu Arc
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Nov 2 2010, 03:07 AM
i never did understand why no one except goku ever used the kaioken, since yamcha, tien, chiaotzu, and piccolo all completed king kai's training. now maybe i'm missing something here, but normally if you "complete" a training course, you learn everything they have to teach. so those 4 at least should have been able to use the kaioken. and i dont think there was anything stating that kaioken x20 was the highest it went, that was just the highest used by goku. imagine krillin and tien kaioken x50 thats equal to the ssj trans, and thats probably why they never used it, because it puts them on ssj level.
goku supposedly completed training too with king kai but king kai never taught him instant transmition which was later revealed that he knew. I guess completing training with some one doesnt mean you learn everything they have to teach....


i think maybe only saiyans have the potential do use this tecnique. it has something to do with body compisition not power level. Maybe king kai saw some one who was able keep there body from being torn apart and taught it to him while not teaching it to the others whos bodies might not be able to take the stress. this is the ONLY explanation i can think of. its like trying to explain why gohan didnt have his ultimate form in gt. soo hard to do.

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The reason has been given many times but for some reason u guys wont accept it. Only goku was able to withstand the power increase from the technique and I also assume vegeta would to, the fact that goku managed to master it at all is amazing in itself seeing as king kai who actually created the technique couldnt even master it. its been shown time and time agen that goku has been able to learn abilities that no1 else can in a time period that is also impossible lol like the kamehameha in dragonball lol
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by that logic, tien should have mastered it because he mastered the kamehameha the first time he saw it, he mastered the evil containment wave after seeing it done improperly once. and goku isnt the only person in the universe that can do it, since vegeta claimed to have seen an identical technique used before.
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Nov 9 2010, 07:07 PM
by that logic, tien should have mastered it because he mastered the kamehameha the first time he saw it, he mastered the evil containment wave after seeing it done improperly once. and goku isnt the only person in the universe that can do it, since vegeta claimed to have seen an identical technique used before.
but whatabout vegeta?
why didnt vegeta sought after any of the techniques goku did.. like the teleport
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Nov 9 2010, 08:23 PM
lunar2
Nov 9 2010, 07:07 PM
by that logic, tien should have mastered it because he mastered the kamehameha the first time he saw it, he mastered the evil containment wave after seeing it done improperly once. and goku isnt the only person in the universe that can do it, since vegeta claimed to have seen an identical technique used before.
but whatabout vegeta?
why didnt vegeta sought after any of the techniques goku did.. like the teleport
thats easy, he would never admit to needing help in any form from goku, no matter what the situation.
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I think by the Buu Saga a bunch of people should have been able to learn Kaioken, I mean by then they were way more powerful then when Goku learned it, you have a point there.
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