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Future 17 and 18 vs Present SSJ Vegeta
Topic Started: Oct 6 2010, 03:44 PM (2,141 Views)
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Thanks for someone actually knowing their ***** for once, good job dark :)..

Nusu.. stop saying prove it, if you are too lazy to research it yourself don't get in these debates please.. you're awfully reminiscent of a troll at this point to me.

Pyro - I don't think the past androids were holding back. Gero had to get back to the labs because the Z fighters were much stronger than he had anticipated, and I'm sure he made adjustments on 17&18 accordingly.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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Oct 8 2010, 10:26 PM
Thanks for someone actually knowing their ***** for once, good job dark :)..

Nusu.. stop saying prove it, if you are too lazy to research it yourself don't get in these debates please.. you're awfully reminiscent of a troll at this point to me.

Pyro - I don't think the past androids were holding back. Gero had to get back to the labs because the Z fighters were much stronger than he had anticipated, and I'm sure he made adjustments on 17&18 accordingly.
First, i need prove i trust my brain and my mind more then empty words from a user thank you very much. <_< . I donīt need your respect or approval. Cheers.

However, Trunks is not able to sense their ki so this prove isnīt relevant, also Future 18 and 17 seems to having fun fighting 18 and 17 from the present time had a mission to kill Goku.

So of course they finished them of faster.
Edited by Nusu, Oct 9 2010, 06:41 AM.
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Alright, looks like I'll have to pull some crap outta me and research this a good bit... then come back.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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Oct 9 2010, 09:22 PM
Alright, looks like I'll have to pull some crap outta me and research this a good bit... then come back.
Not really, i might have something in mind.
Edited by Nusu, Oct 10 2010, 05:52 AM.
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Go for it.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

I watched the fight again, and seriously? You canīt compare the fight with 18 and 17 in the future they couldīve barely used 30% of their power and were 100% toying with him so that Trunks "handled" them was rather false.

Comparing Future 18 and 17 with their present counterparts is.. rather weird, 18 and 17 from the present are rather down to earth and more "human" like then total killing machines like the ones from the Future.

My point? F. 18 and 17 were toying with Future Trunks so this isnīt even accurate.

My second point? 18 and 17 from the present were fighting and couldīve been 60% precent or higher they were actually "serious" Future 18 and 17 werenīt at all.

And do we even know that 18 and 17 are able to sense ki (if i am mistaken please tell me lol, i recently didnīt watched/red the kamicolo vs 17 fight).
Edited by Nusu, Oct 10 2010, 09:49 AM.
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Only 16 can sense energy i think.

Even if he cant sense their energy he cant tell with a fist to the fast whether or not their stronger.

And you can genuinely tell if someone's holding back when they punch you.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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Oct 10 2010, 10:17 AM
Only 16 can sense energy i think.

Even if he cant sense their energy he cant tell with a fist to the fast whether or not their stronger.

And you can genuinely tell if someone's holding back when they punch you.
Yeah, 16 seemīd to know.
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16 has a built in scouter, 17 and 18 don't. in the anime at least, it was very clear that 16 was able to accurately compare powers at close range, while 17 and 18 had no idea what a persons present power was until they started to fight. they do, however have database information on all the z fighters and have their last recorded powers stored in their memories.
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Whoops in last post i said :
Even if he cant sense their energy he cant tell with a fist to the fast whether or not their stronger.

LOL Meant :

Even if he cant sense their energy he can tell with a fist to the face whether or not their stronger!
And you can genuinely tell if someone's holding back when they punch you!

:w00t:
Edited by Ryebrid, Oct 12 2010, 06:33 AM.
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