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| + Pyrus | Oct 5 2010, 07:36 PM Post #16 |
 
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Yes. Even if you don't believe they were in the anime or manga, they're shown to be vastly superior to her in this movie. |
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| ueharakk | Oct 5 2010, 07:38 PM Post #17 |
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well, then what manga character would you place them equal too? |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 5 2010, 07:41 PM Post #18 |
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Before the RoSaT, anywhere from #18 to inital Perfect Cell. After, it'd be anywhere from #16 to maybe SSj Trunks from the Cell Games. |
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| ueharakk | Oct 5 2010, 07:45 PM Post #19 |
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so in the movie are they pre or post rosat? |
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| lunar2 | Oct 5 2010, 08:04 PM Post #20 |
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it would have to be pre, becauuse this is the day after the tourney, and they went into the rosat something like 36 hours after buu was released. |
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| darkwarrior | Oct 5 2010, 08:16 PM Post #21 |
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Bio Broly beat Goten and Trunks in Movie 11 just as bad as he beat them in Movie 10. In fact, he KO'd them even faster in Movie 11. I guess the only reason why you guys are assuming he's weaker is because he wasn't as psycho in Movie 11. This evidence alone proves that Bio Broly is just as strong, if not stronger than Movie 10 Broly. Edited by darkwarrior, Oct 5 2010, 08:17 PM.
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| ueharakk | Oct 5 2010, 10:24 PM Post #22 |
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yeah man i agree. I personally believe biobroly was equal to ssj broly in movie 10. I mean the clone was created by the blood of that broly, so why would he be weaker than movie 8? Also, shouldn't goten and trunks be post rosat? Does it exactly say in the movie that it takes place one day after the tournament? Because if it doesn't then its probably at least after rosat seeing as babidi and majin buu are not a threat to the earth at this point. |
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| lunar2 | Oct 5 2010, 11:19 PM Post #23 |
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it doesnt matter how powerful broly was when they got his blood, a clone is not affected by the experiences of the original. biobroly has higher potential then broly because of the biowarrior upgrades, and he is a better fighter because he isnt crazy, but his actual power is much, much lower. he beat the kids faster because he wasnt toying with them this time, but if he was actually as powerful as before, they would not have fought him. they were confident they could beat him starting out because his pl was so much lower. it wasnt until they realized his style was so much better than before that they got scared. so he is a lot weaker than real broly, but a better fighter. |
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| ueharakk | Oct 5 2010, 11:30 PM Post #24 |
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u don't have proof that a clone is any weaker than the original. Its true that this broly did not have the experiences the original had, but he has the body and power of the original that resulted from those experiences. Cell was recreated from a single cell way more powerful than his original form. Broly was recreated from cells, so why wouldn't the same thing is happen to broly, i could even say he might have got a zenkai from being brought back not only from the brink of death, but from death, but I won't. I say he is as strong, but the only difference is that the boys are post rosat. |
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| darkwarrior | Oct 5 2010, 11:40 PM Post #25 |
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Exactly. I don't know what he's talking about. There's no proof that Bio Broly is weaker than his Movie 10 self. Whether he was toying around or whatever, there's no factual proof. And since he's a clone of "the LSSJ", it's only fitting that he is exactly the same in both appearance and ability. Also, Bio Broly > USSJ Trunks. Trunks has a lot of power at this level but he couldn't do much damage to Perfect Cell not to mention he's much slower in this form. Edited by darkwarrior, Oct 5 2010, 11:42 PM.
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| lunar2 | Oct 5 2010, 11:52 PM Post #26 |
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a clone is not reproduced from the cells of the original, only the dna. and you have no proof that biobroly is as strong so dont give me that bull. dna does not get zenkais, only intact cells. cell's cell is the same person carrying on the same life, or else thered be several cells in hell and several picollos in heaven, but theres not theres only one. biobroly is not the same broly in a regenerated body, he is a new creature with the same genes. he does not have any of the original cells to carry on the effects of a zenkai. and if you want to insist that what happened to the original broly had any effect at all on biobroly, explain why he doesnt run around yelling "kakarrot" all the time. because cell remembers everything when he regenerates, why doesnt broly if its the same thing. |
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| ueharakk | Oct 6 2010, 12:02 AM Post #27 |
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I see what you are saying about the cell theory, but in the end all we can do is disprove each other's statements, we cannot prove our own. Has there ever been another instance in db manga or anime that we deal with cloning? If there is then we can compare how the clone stacks up to the original. Other than that we have no proof, except for the fight, in which biobroly, who is only ssj not Lssj, performed the same way ssj broly movie 10 would have performed against trunks and goten post rosat. About biobroly shouting "kakarrot" i don't think broly shouted or could shout anything in the movie because of how messed up he got from the liquid. And anyway, I said that his body and power would be retained if cloned, not his experiences, therefore he would not know who kakarott is, but would have the power that resulted from fighting with him. If broly was as you say, a lot weaker than his self then I would actually see goten and trunks winning the fight, not getting thrashed as usual. |
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| lunar2 | Oct 6 2010, 12:13 AM Post #28 |
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but biobroly was serious in this fight, not toying with them like the original did, so if biobroly had to get serious to do the same thing that broly did, then it only makes sense that biobroly is weaker. without the bio warrior upgrades and whatever training those machines give him, his power level would be right about, oh 10,000. now obviously he was much higher than that because of all the stuff the scientists did, but he was nowhere near what the other was. |
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| ueharakk | Oct 6 2010, 12:31 AM Post #29 |
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Once again, you can't prove that he was serious, especially since biobroly's face is covered up, and can't talk. I personally don't see him any more or less serious than the regular broly, so can you tell me why he seems more serious to you? |
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| darkwarrior | Oct 6 2010, 12:35 AM Post #30 |
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Oh yeah, a SSJ with a mere power level of 10,000. WTF. That's less than the freaking Ginyu Force. Point is, Broly got cloned. He's clearly been reborn as the LSSJ (i.e. physique, hair, eyes, etc.) and KO'd Goten and Trunks within minutes. Whether he was toying with them or not is unknown (he was covered in sludge so we can't see any facial expressions to support that argument). So even if he's 10% weaker or 50% stronger, we won't know. All we know is that he was LSSJ in Movie 11 even after being consumed in the sludge. Goten and Trunks suffered a beating just like in Movie 10 so Broly is still stronger than them regardless. Point proven. Edited by darkwarrior, Oct 6 2010, 12:37 AM.
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