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Broly vs. Pikkon
Topic Started: Sep 28 2010, 02:49 AM (6,419 Views)
Ussj Future Trunks Oct 2 2010, 08:09 AM Post #46
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 >However i think they finished the RoSat like they did in the Anime.
movies arent related to the anime so it can be inferred goku and gohan didnt stay in fpssj cos cell was no longer a threat in movie 8.
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Nusu Oct 2 2010, 11:24 AM Post #47
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Its like saying Gohan in Movie 10 is still on his Chibi Gohan level in strength. That dosenīt mean he canīt go FPSSJ anymore, Or lost any kind of power, Its just that he reverted he didnīt needed to stay SSJ anymore.
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Fourth Doctor Who Oct 2 2010, 12:46 PM Post #48
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 I'll have to go with Broly on this one Pikkon only surprise attack Perfect Cell in the anime and that won't work on Broly in both movies.
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+ Pyrus Oct 2 2010, 02:24 PM Post #49
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Oct 2 2010, 06:28 AM
I know he took her permission, but that wouldnīt make Goku stop Gohanīs training, and that somebody would interrupt is rather wrong, since nobody of the z-fighters would go in, cause they know that Goku is training with Gohan, either Chi Chi comes in what is rather not really expectable or she wouldīve came in, in the anime version too, she didnīt so, there is still no problem that they finished the training like they did in the Anime and Manga.
If there's no more threat, I'm sure somebody would come in and tell the Sons.

Either way, for whatever reason, I think they came out early. That's how I explain Gohan seeming to be weaker than Goku in the movie, and not going SSj2.
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Nusu Oct 2 2010, 05:02 PM Post #50
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Donīt think so, Goku would never stop the training with Gohan, Gokuīs wish was Gohan to become stronger, and he wouldnīt just stop the training just because Cell is dead, even better for them now they can train more intenser.

Gohan needs an emotinal shock, Broly didnīt really gave him one, also Gohan didnīt seemīd to be confident in his powerīs smiliar when he was fighting against Cell, he was probably thinking that Goku is still the strongest.
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Wintergreen5000 Oct 3 2010, 07:34 AM Post #51
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 I agree that there is no way Goku would cut the training and leave. Seems illogical. Even Goku wouldn't pass up this training even if Cell were dead. Especially because he knows he might have to fight Vegeta. I don't see how they would know either. And no one is likely to go in there and interrupt their training just to tell them that Cell has been defeated.
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Nusu Oct 3 2010, 08:25 AM Post #52
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

^ Yeah.
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Ussj Future Trunks Oct 3 2010, 03:25 PM Post #53
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 >I agree that there is no way Goku would cut the training and leave. Seems illogical. Even Goku wouldn't pass up this training even if Cell were dead. Especially because he knows he might have to fight Vegeta. I don't see how they would know either. And no one is likely to go in there and interrupt their training just to tell them that Cell has been defeated.
hey its toei. the movies dont have a shred of sense in them, especially *****ing movie 8.

>that won't work on Broly in both movies.
he shat his pants when goku got a little bit of power from near dead base saiyans, then couldnt beat a wave of fpssj goku (wished alive somehow) and two beaten badly, tired ssj1s. im sure pikkon who beat the hell out of dead mastered super saiyan goku stronger than he was vs cell can beat broly
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Fourth Doctor Who Oct 3 2010, 04:13 PM Post #54
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 If that was true, Goku would have taken Gohan along with Goten to do some training instead of sitting at how reading books. End Of Z.
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Nusu Oct 3 2010, 06:13 PM Post #55
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Goku would never stop the training with Gohan and thats the point, Movie 8 plays in the 10 days saga, so basiclly Goku and Gohan finished the training.
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Wintergreen5000 Oct 3 2010, 07:41 PM Post #56
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>I agree that there is no way Goku would cut the training and leave. Seems illogical. Even Goku wouldn't pass up this training even if Cell were dead. Especially because he knows he might have to fight Vegeta. I don't see how they would know either. And no one is likely to go in there and interrupt their training just to tell them that Cell has been defeated.
hey its toei. the movies dont have a shred of sense in them, especially *****ing movie 8.

>that won't work on Broly in both movies.
he shat his pants when goku got a little bit of power from near dead base saiyans, then couldnt beat a wave of fpssj goku (wished alive somehow) and two beaten badly, tired ssj1s. im sure pikkon who beat the hell out of dead mastered super saiyan goku stronger than he was vs cell can beat broly
Well, I agree that there are things that Toei should've made clear in their movies that they haven't. However, if you truly believe that Goku and Gohan cut their training in the RosAT because of Cell's death, then why would Piccolo have even bothered to train himself? Piccolo and Goku are both fighting fanatics. I just can't see Goku cutting his training if Piccolo didn't.

I like to look at the OVA as an example of what it takes to beat some one of comparable power to Broly at the levels of power the Z-Fighters were exhibiting at those times. Now, I know there are multiple endings to the OVA, but hear me out. In one ending, it takes all the Z-Fighter's powers combined to kill Hatchyack. It would take no less than that to get the job done. So, seeing Goku recieved energy from Base Saiyans and defeated Broly surely does not make sense. And because of that, I know that in order for them to defeat Broly, they would've had to have given Goku sufficient power, enough to kill him, like they did with Hatchyack. And base powers just are not enough to do that to Broly.

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+ Pyrus Oct 3 2010, 08:00 PM Post #57
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 There's one thing I noticed with this whole thing. When you solve one problem, another opens up. In the case of mid-RoSaT, when you solve Gohan's apparent weakness and lack of SSj2, you have to find a solution to Piccolo's strength. For post-RoSaT, it's the opposite.
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Ninja Pebble Oct 3 2010, 11:13 PM Post #58
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 Pikkon wins Broly movie 8.

SS2 Gohan > > > SPC > FPPC > FPSS Goku/Pikkon > MSS Goku/PC > Broly.

Goku was fighting Pikkon with MSS and was getting pwnd if it wasn't for his instant Kamehameha ring out and I don't even think Broly could take on a MSS Goku for long.
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Ussj Future Trunks Oct 4 2010, 04:24 AM Post #59
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 >And base powers just are not enough to do that to Broly.

apparently they were. cos movie 8 is bullcrap
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+ Ryebrid Oct 4 2010, 05:55 AM Post #60
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 Well isnt it easy to say that they sent their super Saiyan energy through base form?
They didnt have to transform to give the power.

Super Saiyan power has been shown sometimes to be usable in base but not a lot
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