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why goten and trunks cant go ssj3 alone; coolness
Topic Started: Sep 15 2010, 06:42 PM (4,893 Views)
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I think the fact that Goku trained in otherworld helped him achieve SS3 but would it be possible if he wasn't dead? Not sure. That might be the reason Vegeta can't go SS3. Goku figured out how to do it when he was dead and Gotenks is a fusion.

I think the real reason might be Vegeta just hasn't had the proper training and didn't think it was possible to transform a third time so he never pushed himself to.
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Chief
Sep 16 2010, 07:47 PM
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Sep 16 2010, 03:25 PM
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Sep 16 2010, 03:29 AM
honestly I don't think any of then can achieve it, not even goku. he only gained it because he had no body to push, and gotanks achieves it because he isn't real, he is just a body formulated by the fusionthus his body had no limits.

but not making this another brolli thread, I think he is the only one capable of such power.
Goku can achieve it. As you remember he used it again fighting Kid Buu after old supreme kai gave his life to him. So he had body to push, but he couldn't be able ever to master it and get used to it that's why he turned back to normal trying to focus power to strike kid Buu.
i meant the first initial transformation, not the one afterwards.

Goku wouldnt be able to push his body to the limits if he was on earth...

Gokui only transformed on earth because his body was already conditioned to it but i dont think his body can handle the stress if he was training for it on earth!
Yes, the advantage of other world training was the ability to push his body with no limits. After he mastered turning SSJ3 in the other world he could be able to turn SSJ3 even after revival but he pushed his body too far and couldn't maintain it very long (such as fight with Kid Buu, failure to focus SSJ3 power). I think that he could be able to turn SSJ3 if he was on earth but only after much much longer training than in other world. That's why Vegeta wasn't even close turning SSJ3 in DBZ.
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To answer the threads question:
Why cant they go SSJ3 alone? Because they arent strong enough.

They each have the potential. Hybrid saiyans are much stronger than full blood saiyans, especially in trunks and goten's case (they dont have tails; makes them naturally stronger than someone like gohan).

If they were dedicated to training like Vegeta and Goku, theyd get it. no problem.

^^also, I dont remember anything about the afterlife body affecting SSJ3 in the manga. sources?
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His Other World body can sustain the massive chi drain that SSj3 brings. His real body can't.
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Sep 17 2010, 12:54 AM
^^also, I dont remember anything about the afterlife body affecting SSJ3 in the manga. sources?
I hope kamikaze answered your question.

I felt it was common sense! where else could he have trained for that transformation?
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Try learning facts instead of spurting out incorrect garbage based on your own personal and unexperienced opinions.

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I just dont think that was stated anywhere in the manga. That's why I asked for sources. Can I get a quote?
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I can't give you a quote, but I know for a fact that Goku said something about him not having the trouble of SSj3 in Other World.
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