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Piccolo Stronger than Goku and Vegeta?; about piccolo vs goku n vegeta
Topic Started: Sep 4 2010, 07:33 PM (10,447 Views)
+ Ryebrid Sep 12 2010, 07:17 AM Post #46
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p123
Sep 11 2010, 05:46 PM
Common sense. You can figure it out. It will be easier to let it sink in if you figure it out on your own. One hint. Kid/Teen Gohan.
Dude Piccolo in base was fighting off the Cell Jnrs. Vegeta and Trunks were fighting off the Cell Jnrs AS SUPER SAIYANS.
Meaning that Piccolo is A LOT stronger than Trunk's or Vegeta's Base form and even Goku and Gohan's base form for that matter.
You have to be in denial not to see that Piccolo is actually stronger than their base forms.
As soon as they discovered Super Saiyan they ditched base form and trained SSJ instead. While Piccolo only and always has base form to train.
Meaning that Piccolo is A LOT stronger than all their bases.

Im not saying he is always stronger than their bases but for some time after they discovered Super Saiyan Piccolo was definitely higher.

Its common sense to see that he was, for some parts, stronger.
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Nusu Sep 12 2010, 07:18 AM Post #47
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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Sep 11 2010, 08:14 PM
Nusu, you're thinking of filler. In the manga we never see SSj Kid Trunks and SSj Goten fight Cyborg #18. After she splits them up, they see Videl flying off and they leave with her.
Only evidence with have, On their power.
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Kingpin Sep 12 2010, 09:01 AM Post #48
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Sep 12 2010, 07:17 AM
p123
Sep 11 2010, 05:46 PM
Common sense. You can figure it out. It will be easier to let it sink in if you figure it out on your own. One hint. Kid/Teen Gohan.
Dude Piccolo in base was fighting off the Cell Jnrs. Vegeta and Trunks were fighting off the Cell Jnrs AS SUPER SAIYANS.
Meaning that Piccolo is A LOT stronger than Trunk's or Vegeta's Base form and even Goku and Gohan's base form for that matter.
You have to be in denial not to see that Piccolo is actually stronger than their base forms.
As soon as they discovered Super Saiyan they ditched base form and trained SSJ instead. While Piccolo only and always has base form to train.
Meaning that Piccolo is A LOT stronger than all their bases.

Im not saying he is always stronger than their bases but for some time after they discovered Super Saiyan Piccolo was definitely higher.

Its common sense to see that he was, for some parts, stronger.
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I couldn't have said it any better if I tried!

I completely agree with this argument!
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* Bex Sep 12 2010, 01:10 PM Post #49
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Sep 9 2010, 09:18 PM
Lol just because you don't have the brain capacity to deal with a scary thing like "numbers" doesn't mean you have to make a mess out of yourself silly child. It's not that bad I promise.
p123 - I would advise you to stop calling fellow members silly and making posts such as the one above. This behaviour isn't acceptable. If you cannot discuss things nicely then I suggest you don't discuss anything at all. You have a verbal warning.

Chief - This isn't a warning so don't take it badly. Just for reference, if you see people arguing in a topic, please contact a moderator so we can stop them. It just makes our jobs easier, okay? ^.^

The same goes for DBZHybrid and Nusu. If you see anybody behaving inappropriately report it to staff, DO NOT take matters into your own hands. Having re-read this topic I will actually be handing out a formal warning to p123 for extremely arrogant behaviour and essential flaming in this topic.

Any arguing or responses to this post will count towards more punishment. You have been warned. Stay on topic.
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+ Pyrus Sep 12 2010, 05:06 PM Post #50
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Sep 12 2010, 07:18 AM
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Nusu, you're thinking of filler. In the manga we never see SSj Kid Trunks and SSj Goten fight Cyborg #18. After she splits them up, they see Videl flying off and they leave with her.
Only evidence with have, On their power.
Yeah, but then you see Popo easily handling the SSj kids on the Lookout. Still want to go with that evidence? Lol.
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p123 Sep 12 2010, 05:21 PM Post #51
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If you can't see how

Base Teen Gohan > Piccolo is implied then I really can't help you. There is no point in further explaining the situation if you do not accept that. But ask yourself.

Why does Gohan expect to win the tournament in base if he himself invited Piccolo?
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Kingpin Sep 12 2010, 05:27 PM Post #52
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Sep 12 2010, 05:06 PM
Nusu
Sep 12 2010, 07:18 AM
Kamikaze Pyro
Sep 11 2010, 08:14 PM
Nusu, you're thinking of filler. In the manga we never see SSj Kid Trunks and SSj Goten fight Cyborg #18. After she splits them up, they see Videl flying off and they leave with her.
Only evidence with have, On their power.
Yeah, but then you see Popo easily handling the SSj kids on the Lookout. Still want to go with that evidence? Lol.
when was that? were they super saiyans?
if they were, were they kidding around?

I don't see popo that strong, especially super saiyans!
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Nusu Sep 12 2010, 05:34 PM Post #53
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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Sep 12 2010, 05:06 PM
Nusu
Sep 12 2010, 07:18 AM
Kamikaze Pyro
Sep 11 2010, 08:14 PM
Nusu, you're thinking of filler. In the manga we never see SSj Kid Trunks and SSj Goten fight Cyborg #18. After she splits them up, they see Videl flying off and they leave with her.
Only evidence with have, On their power.
Yeah, but then you see Popo easily handling the SSj kids on the Lookout. Still want to go with that evidence? Lol.
Also he used probably some of his very good trained speed of lightning. Donīt consider Popo weak, He isnīt a fighter but he has some very good feats.

Are you sure the boyīs went all out as SSJ? I donīt think they wanted to hurt Popo. And one more... do you mean that... Trunks and Goten are weaker then Chibi Goku at the time he was training with Popo? Lol.

Gohan would never hold his own against Cell Jrīs. Not in his base, Gohan was either drunk or high on something :lol: .
Edited by Nusu, Sep 12 2010, 05:39 PM.
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Kingpin Sep 12 2010, 05:40 PM Post #54
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Sep 12 2010, 05:21 PM
If you can't see how

Base Teen Gohan > Piccolo is implied then I really can't help you. There is no point in further explaining the situation if you do not accept that. But ask yourself.

Why does Gohan expect to win the tournament in base if he himself invited Piccolo?
I don't see it.

first of all, gohan didn't know that vegeta and goku achieved ssj2, so he could simply thought that he has a huge advantage over every one in the tournament if super saiyan power was used to its fullest!

I think its the same as saying lets all fight without weapons. it doesn't mean that I think I can beat you without them, just means I want a good, fair, and clean fight!

don't forget goten and trunks agreed not to go super saiyan too, does that mean anything?
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+ Pyrus Sep 12 2010, 06:49 PM Post #55
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when was that? were they super saiyans?
if they were, were they kidding around?

I don't see popo that strong, especially super saiyans!

They were SSj, and they weren't kidding around. They wanted to go fight or something, I can't remember. But Popo told them no, they turned SSj and were determined to go do their thing, and Popo handled them easily.

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Also he used probably some of his very good trained speed of lightning. Donīt consider Popo weak, He isnīt a fighter but he has some very good feats.

Are you sure the boyīs went all out as SSJ? I donīt think they wanted to hurt Popo. And one more... do you mean that... Trunks and Goten are weaker then Chibi Goku at the time he was training with Popo? Lol.

He's strong back in DB but that's it. Once Z starts he's weak as bird piss. The kids are so far above him that none of his speed and training matter.

The boys were determined to go do something and he was trying to stop them. I'm sure they weren't trying to kill him, but considering that they're both stronger than Freeza even in Base, they would've manhandled Popo, yet they didn't. I only brought up this filler because you implied the filler of them fighting #18 is all we have to go off of for their strength. :p
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Nusu Sep 12 2010, 07:53 PM Post #56
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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when was that? were they super saiyans?
if they were, were they kidding around?

I don't see popo that strong, especially super saiyans!

They were SSj, and they weren't kidding around. They wanted to go fight or something, I can't remember. But Popo told them no, they turned SSj and were determined to go do their thing, and Popo handled them easily.

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Also he used probably some of his very good trained speed of lightning. Donīt consider Popo weak, He isnīt a fighter but he has some very good feats.

Are you sure the boyīs went all out as SSJ? I donīt think they wanted to hurt Popo. And one more... do you mean that... Trunks and Goten are weaker then Chibi Goku at the time he was training with Popo? Lol.

He's strong back in DB but that's it. Once Z starts he's weak as bird piss. The kids are so far above him that none of his speed and training matter.

The boys were determined to go do something and he was trying to stop them. I'm sure they weren't trying to kill him, but considering that they're both stronger than Freeza even in Base, they would've manhandled Popo, yet they didn't. I only brought up this filler because you implied the filler of them fighting #18 is all we have to go off of for their strength. :p
He is piss weak, But he as some amazing feats.

Couldnīt agree more xD, However... Popo being able to block them is pretty amazing... Frieza wouldīve broke his ankle by the try to block them xD.
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Kingpin Sep 14 2010, 01:37 AM Post #57
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 they are not that strong, theyre a little bit below ssj future trunks when he fought frieza.
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+ Pyrus Sep 14 2010, 02:40 AM Post #58
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 They are pretty damn strong. Their power amazed Piccolo, of all people.
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Kingpin Sep 14 2010, 02:49 AM Post #59
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 but not as strong as future trunks when he fought frieza. heck future trunks amazed everyone, especially goku of all people.
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Nusu Sep 14 2010, 06:01 AM Post #60
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Indeed, They are strong... i think weaker then 17 but not by a big gap.
Edited by Nusu, Sep 14 2010, 06:02 AM.
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