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A couple of you moderators do your jobs adequately; However.
Topic Started: Aug 18 2010, 08:40 PM (2,106 Views)
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Some of you might well-know that I absolutely cannot stand (most of) DBZF's moderation staff. They're rarely as helpful as they should be, and it's hilarious to see THEM as the ones that become emotional and offended constantly. They're unlikely to be professional, though the age of them may contribute to this. In any event, I have a complaint.

http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8171860&t=8229549

http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8171949&t=8229549

Yeah, textbook DBZF super moderating. Somebody blatantly spams, and you come after the guy that's trying to tell him to stop albeit expressing the common emotion of displeasure towards the spammer.

Like I said; Textbook DBZF moderation. Way to go, Light.

Trust me, there are plenty of other times when I've seen some dumbass do something similar to this, but I'm going to let this be my final disappointment before directly saying something about it.

I'm already having a bad day as it is, but the sheer stupidity of this is about enough. There have been several moderators that have been demoted in recent months that truly deserved it aside from Psyam who chose his demotion, (sadly) but there are still plenty of problems with the current moderation staff. It's so strange, really. There are so many members of this mod staff, and they still couldn't prevent a couple of the problems that go on around here.

Does anybody have an opinion on this? Come on, I'll support you; don't be shy.

Then again, what's the point of complaining about the people you're complaining too. Aside from the administrative staff. Speaking of which, I can list 3 people who were outraged at Tim's promotion, but that's for another time and place.

Some things just aren't being done right around here. So what's the point in taking pride in being a moderator/administrator on here if you're terrible at it? I recall previously hearing Itagaki Manibou stating that nobody should mess with him since he's a super mod. Yeah that's great buddy. You belong to officially the worst moderation staff of any forum community I've ever been apart of. Real tough. Sounds like "authoritative" arrogance to me. You'd be that commonly hated, generic, and *****ty police officer that gets stereotyped so often if you took it up a notch. Psh. Ridiculous.

I even recently recall Zero JOINING in a thread argument. Hell that was just last week, wasn't it?

WHY are these guys moderating? Can anybody answer that? Some of you are okay, but Jesus Christ. The immaturity, lack of attention span, and irresponsibility is what kills almost all of you.
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I'm not a moderator. I have no powers.
Spamming isn't anything to do with me.
I just don't like it when people express their opinions with insults or threats, to me it's a sign of immaturity.

and trust me, there's no way your day's been as bad as mine.
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I like to think I carry out my job as best I can, even if some of the staff don't agree with a couple of the things I've done. If I see something that hasn't been dealt with by somebody else then I'll step in. Or if something hasn't been dealt with in a way I agree with, I'll give my opinion on it.

I do agree that some of the moderating team are either absent or don't carry out their responsibilities as well as they should do. The moderating team isn't terrible (And definately not the worst I've seen), but it could do with improving a bit. Not necessarily the set-up, but the effort side of it.
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Brian here mentioning my name, yet I've done way more for this forum than he has ever done, I've dedicated time for this forum, I've helped with many things on this forum, yet all Brian has done is complain about everyone, complain about everything. The moderation here is not bad, I'm not going to be like some others and say some mods don't do their jobs. We as mods have our disagreements, it happens we don't think alike, doesn't mean they are doing a bad job. Now Brian you're just as terrible as the people you're speaking of, rather than reporting his post you choose to go and call him a jackass. Stop whining use the report button, because you are acting just like the people you are complaining about. Saying "You're a jackass" is just a wonderful job. If you don't like the staff here thats too bad, no one is making you come in the forum, you come because you choose to. Things don't go your way but guess what, what's not good to you is good to someone else.

Please do enlighten me which argument thread I joined in. Post the link.
Edited by -Zero-, Aug 18 2010, 09:40 PM.

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It's difficult to deal with certain issues on the forum unless they're reported. We have lives too. I have never seen anyone ever report any thread on this forum. I'm not doubting it has happened, I just never see it. Honestly, if you see an offensive post, you should report it. I myself have seen a lot of violations which I have taken care of as of late that were even weeks old.

I'll agree, some of the moderating team is far too inactive to fulfill their posts and should be demoted and/or replaced - but, this is neither my decision nor my concern. If you have a problem - report it. Don't just complain and not be useful about it. I like you Brian, but, this post was sort of unnecessary.

I don't care how "honest" you are, there are more civilized ways to handle your concerns. I do my best, regardless of others' opinions on me. We are people. We make mistakes. I encourage you and other members to report topics, but, it just doesn't happen. I'm on this forum often and I browse every section, but, I still miss things.

Let me be honest with you - as you are to others. You have quite the audacity to go after any of the staff members even if I agree with you on a few counts. If one does not help to report issues to the community, one does not have the right to attack those who do, just because they are dissatisfied with the decisions some of the caretakers make, whether or not they were flawed.

I agree that you have the right to state your opinion, but, you take it too far with targeting certain members on the public forum. To me, I view this as trying to victimize them. If you wish to specifically voice your complaints, you either talk to the staff member in question or talk to Jake about it.

It's a matter of taste, in my opinion. I find it very distasteful to single out people in the public forum where hundreds of people view every day. You may not. In any case, I do agree some members of staff are completely useless due to their inactivity (which is why I myself stood down months ago) but, you can never accuse the ones who do try to do their job as being counter-productive or useless.

Their judgment may be in error at times, but, it is not helping them to single them out and attack them on the public forum, rather, it discourages them. This is a fact.
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In recent times I only remember seeing two reports. One was taken care of before I had a chance and the other I took care of. Funny enough Necifix one of them was by you before you got reinstated as a mod

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NeciFiX is offically on this case.
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O...kay, so this is the place where I'm supposed to go if I have a complaint, and all of a sudden there are major restrictions to WHAT exactly I'm complaining about? Then what good would just saying, "Oh, some of the moderators aren't doing their jobs properly" without stating who? Talk about a vague complaint... I guess some people just can't face opinions or ridicule. That's always the problem I've had with certain... people. Anyway I'll get back with you Zero on that post. I'll go dig it up now.

EDIT: Actually I can't be bothered at the moment. I will later though since we're in court.
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Let me help you out If you want to refer to this topic - http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8215525/4/#post8170481, I wasn't the only mod involved, and the topic has been closed since therefore its been adressed.

If you meant this topic which I doubt because I see no argument there just see a debate between me and Sousen, I have no issues with Sousen http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8216807/2/#post8169476 then its also useless.

If you mean on your interview you attacked me first and Necifix let us both know to stop.

Otherwise there is nothing else from me from the month of August that would catch your interest.

Also if you are to bring up you claiming me to have called you a racist, then you know that's a lie since I've never said you're a racist. So either you're lying saying the topic was from last week or you are mentioning topics that have been addressed. Either way everyone knows you always have an issue with someone anyways.

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Brain your statements may be true, not agreeing with them. But voicing your opinion in such a way as this, brings unwanted conflict between people. Now, because of this topic people will look at you more differently and may be more prone to say something or react. Its not wrong though for telling us you have a concern for the staff. In fact it may help, us forum members to come forth and say something or bring about a wanted change. But it is not necessary to attack certain individuals. I am sure though your opinion is heard, cause people do agree with you on the lack of enforcement at times. But as you been here awhile, you know some are more lenient then others and like to have "fun" But as you can see, when a decision needs to be made it happens. Weather ot not how long it takes, it happens. but you are right. Some should put forth more effort. But maybe this topic will make them realise this and "show" you they are capable. (:
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I'm hearing this word "attack" a lot. I'm also even hearing "racist" and "liar."

This is blown out of proportion. I'm done here.
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Hey man, I agree with you on many points but than again I haven't been around that much since I got demoted to criticize anyone, I understand there is a lot "moderator corruption" on the forum, but I disagree with you about all of the moderators if that what you mean; Besides T.B, Zero and Mitas are probably the only moderators around who actually do their jobs well, I could name others who don't do their jobs but I don't wanna get any heat.
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Aug 19 2010, 02:58 AM
I'm hearing this word "attack" a lot. I'm also even hearing "racist" and "liar."

This is blown out of proportion. I'm done here.
The word 'racist' was used by Zero explaining (although it wasn't necessary) that you once accused him of calling you a racist. He isn't calling you a racist now.

And Graffiti, who is T.B?
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Aug 19 2010, 02:58 AM
This is blown out of proportion. I'm done here.
Then next time when a member asks you to please refrain from name-calling (not a moderator, a member) not an order, a simple request.

Don't have a massive hissy fit.

Mitas, tb is Corrupted.
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And Corrupt[ed] is myself.

I will be looking into the issue of inactive/ineffective staff tomorrow and possible replacements, until then, please PM me your advice or suggestions on this issue.

Dark Knight's post really sums it up for me. Well spoken.
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