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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 13 2010, 03:45 AM (1,816 Views) | |
| Masenkoooo-Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | Aug 13 2010, 03:45 AM Post #1 |
 
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ok so im watching the imperfect/ perfect cell saga and i noticed something. in the episode where they discover the time machine on that island, cell later explains that he got that time machine by killing trunks in the future and he went back in time. 1 year after cell was already in the present time, trunks goes back to the same time and kills frieza. now im confused, if cell killed him in the future, how did trunks go to the past if he was already dead by one year? |
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| Bouncefox | Aug 13 2010, 04:13 AM Post #2 |
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Well, it's not like I know the right answer to this, but I can tell you my thoughts: I think Cell killed Trunks after he returned, and wasn't even in the past yet. If that's not it, I'm finding it hard to believe that Trunks returned. If must've happened like that...since there's no second Trunks or anything to fill that role. I think my answer is wrong, but hey...it's a thought. |
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| * -Zero- | Aug 13 2010, 04:16 AM Post #3 |
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Different time dimensions. Lets suppose this line her e - is the present and then the future are lines after -= see that the present is there with two lines in front each line represents the future but lets see, the first line is the line where Future trunks comes from, he exists in there and cell did not kill him, the line under that is another future where Cell killed him. I'm not sure I'm exactly right but I believe that's what it is |
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| + Ryebrid | Aug 13 2010, 11:05 AM Post #4 |
 
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Ok its hard to grasp but i'll try explain best i can. The time in which we all see DBZ in is the present time line right. Trunks came back from the future of their time line in which the androids are still alive, but Cell is still not done evolving in his pod. Hmm... it goes like this... Present(DBZ time line)-Future(Trunk's time line in which he comes back to warn everyone)-The Future of the future(which makes the future the present) Is where Trunks goes back to tell everyone he killed the Androids but he is weaker in this time line and Cell kills him. It's very confusing and doesnt really make sense... The future where Trunks is killed by Cell is like an alternate future to the one the other Trunks lives in. I hope this helped? Cause i even Confused myself lol |
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| + Pelador | Aug 14 2010, 12:33 AM Post #5 |
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And all these complicated plot devices are created when a writer initially plans to end the show at a certain point but is then told to add more story. |
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| Super Goku | Aug 15 2010, 12:02 AM Post #6 |
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Theres 4 timelines OUR TIMELINE, future trunks' timeline(we'll call him future trunksA) then cell's/future trunksB's timeline(where he killed future trunksB) and there's the timeline that future trunksB was about to travel to, when cell killed him. all in all, the future trunks we know is from a different timeline than cell was. thats all. |
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| Masenkoooo-Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | Aug 15 2010, 01:07 AM Post #7 |
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hmm still confusing, but DBZHybrids cleared it up for me. thanks all!! |
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| darkwarrior | Aug 15 2010, 02:16 AM Post #8 |
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No, there's only three timelines (at least that they show in the anime). 1 - Present Timeline 2 - Trunk's timeline (20 years into the future of the present) 3 - Cell's timeline (40 years into the future of the present) When Trunks comes back from the future, he discovers that whatever changes he makes in the present doesn't have an affect in his time. It doesn't really make sense since time travel is fake but it's an easy concept to understand. Ultimately, Cell was shown as the first one to travel back in time as his timeline is the actual original timeline (Goku kills Frieza & King Cold, Goku dies, Androids arrive and kill everyone, Trunks kills Androids, Cell appears and kills Trunks, Cell goes back 40 years into the past from his timeline, that timeline is now safe even though all the Z-fighters and almost every human are dead). |
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| King Kai Fan | Aug 15 2010, 03:00 AM Post #9 |
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You guys aren't making sense, LOL. DarkWarrior has the best answer I think. Original Time Line 1. Androids kill everyone 2. Future Tunks goes back in time 3. Future Trunks returns with new strength and defeats the androids 4. Imperfect Cell jumps Future Trunks, kills him, goes back in time Alternate Time Line 1. Future Trunks goes back and warns everyone of the androids. 2. Future Trunks goes back to the future then comes back to the present again to discover the androids are different 3. Future Trunks and the guys defeat the androids and Cell 4. Future Trunks returns to the future and kills Imperfect Cell. Future Trunks knows that Imperfect Cell is planning a sneak attack The Future Trunks that defeated Imperfect Cell in the Alternate Time Line is different from the version of Future Trunks in the Original Time Line. So the alternate Future Trunks should have run into another copy of himself before he killed Imperfect Cell in the future. He didn't see another version of Future Trunks, so there must be yet another alternate time line or something. |
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| J-Smack | Aug 17 2010, 10:24 PM Post #10 |
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Lmao. Okay, everyone has said the same thing, pretty much. Cell is from another timeline that is even further in the future than Future Trunks's timeline. Hopefully one of the explanations can help everybody. |
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| ebilly99 | Aug 28 2010, 02:12 AM Post #11 |
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ok let me clear it up by introducing each time line #1 no time machine, Trunks is eventually killed androids rule #2 Trunks goes back in time, gives antidote, returns and is killed by cell #3 cell arrives, alters time line so that trunks kills frezzia, making him strong enough to stop cell from steeling time machine #4 trunks and z warriors stop cell |
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| J-Smack | Aug 28 2010, 06:32 AM Post #12 |
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I haven't heard of the first one, and number 3 sort of confuses me...is that one Future Trunks's timeline? |
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| + Ryebrid | Aug 28 2010, 11:05 AM Post #13 |
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Sorry double posted =P
Edited by Ryebrid, Aug 28 2010, 11:06 AM.
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| + Ryebrid | Aug 28 2010, 11:05 AM Post #14 |
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Ok so it goes like this. 3 time lines: 1. Present time line (DBZ) 2. Future time line (In which Trunks comes back from in order to inform Goku. Cell is still in incubation) (Cell also tries to steal Trunks ship in this time like in the future but Trunks kills Cell in this time line) 3. The Future of the future time line (Where Cell is completely evolved and kills Trunks and goes back to the "Present time line") That should clear all confusion. |
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| C0rrupt3d | Aug 29 2010, 04:43 AM Post #15 |
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call me crazy but could there be two identical time machines? i mean did you guys match the seriial numbers on both machines. i haven't seen all of it so excuse my ignorance. but i'm just saying thats a possibillity |
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