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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 27 2010, 12:52 AM (5,208 Views) | |
| + Pelador | Jul 27 2010, 12:52 AM Post #1 |
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I'm going to say it's between Brian Clough, Alex Ferguson or Jose Mourinho. Brian Clough got Derby out of the old dvision 2 and won the champinship with them in both leagues. Then he proved his mangerial skills were not limited to a single team by doing the same thing with Nottingham and winning some European cup with them twice. However it was also shown that he may not have been so talented without the help of Peter Taylor. So this is why I'm not sure whether he's the best of all time. Alex Ferguson's record at Manchester United speaks for itself. When was the last time they were at the bottom half of the league table? How many European and national trophies have they won? On the other hand I'm not sure how Mr Ferguson has been tested with managing other teams. Jose Mourinho is probably the closest person to being the best football mannager ever. I think if memory serves he's won the Champions League with two different teams. Possibly the only man in history to achieve this. Allthough it's possible Brian Clough could have gotten there first had the Derby-Juventus game not been a fix. Also, would Mr Mourinho do so well with a lower division team? I'm going to say Brian Clough is the best due to consistency, (ignoring his time at Leeds of course) then Mourinho as he won the championship twice with two different teams, (or was it three?) Then Ferguson, as most of his career has been with Man-u and they hardly ever win the European trophies. |
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| Mc Esse | Jul 27 2010, 05:26 AM Post #2 |
 
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Mourinho. 2 Portuguese Ligas 1 Portuguese Cup 2 Premier Leagues 1 FA Cup 2 Serie A 1 Coppa Italia 1 Europa League (Porto 2003) 2 UEFA Champions League (Porto 2004, Inter 2010) Also gained a major Treble in 2010 and a minor Treble in 2004 for winning 3 trophies in 1 year. Plus he is only 47. |
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| + Pelador | Jul 28 2010, 01:11 AM Post #3 |
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Wow. Shows what I know about managers. That is pretty spectacular and for that I'm going to say Mourinho is best. But I wonder if the players like him? He doesn't tend to stay at clubs for very long. |
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| * Light | Jul 28 2010, 10:40 AM Post #4 |
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Porto aside, Mourinho has always had substantial financial backing. It's still amazing what he has achieved though. There's a few, Busby and Shankly have done amazing things at one club which I respect, Clough turned teams around and someone like Mourinho has universal success at any club. I would say Rinus Michels or Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager of all time. Michels for his total football and Ferguson for being perhaps the most resilient man in football. Manager Michels UEFA European Football Championship winner: 1988 FIFA World Cup finalist: 1974 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Trophy Play-Off winner: 1971 European Cup winner: 1971 European Cup finalist: 1969 Eredivisie winner: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970 La Liga winner: 1974 KNVB Cup winner: 1967, 1970, 1971 Copa del Rey winner: 1978 DFB Pokal winner: 1983 St. Mirren Scottish First Division (1): 197677 Aberdeen Scottish Premier Division (3): 197980, 198384, 198485 Scottish Cup (4): 198182, 198283, 198384, 198586 Scottish League Cup (1): 198586 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 198283 UEFA Super Cup (1): 1983 Manchester United Premier League (11): 199293, 199394, 199596, 199697, 199899, 19992000, 200001, 200203, 200607, 200708, 200809 FA Cup (5): 198990, 199394, 199596, 199899, 200304 League Cup (4): 199192, 200506, 200809, 200910 FA Charity/Community Shield (8): 1990, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008 UEFA Champions League (2): 199899, 200708 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 199091 UEFA Super Cup (1): 1991 Intercontinental Cup (1): 1999 FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008 However, for his policies on football, Arsene Wenger will always be my personal favourite. |
 
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| Graffiti | Jul 31 2010, 07:25 AM Post #5 |
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I gotta go with Vicente del Bosque, manager of the Spanish national football team. |
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| + Pelador | Aug 1 2010, 12:51 AM Post #6 |
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Care to say why? I've never heard of him but you must have good reason why you believe he's a great manager. |
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| * Light | Aug 1 2010, 01:58 AM Post #7 |
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He's the current Spain manager, just won the world cup. |
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| + Pelador | Aug 3 2010, 01:01 AM Post #8 |
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ok, I suppose that must make him quite a good manager considering it's such a difficult tournament. Especially this year. |
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| master412160 | Oct 9 2010, 05:31 PM Post #9 |
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Hmm maybe Dik Advocaat ? |
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| Pedro | Dec 17 2010, 10:45 PM Post #10 |
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Players love him! In a non homossexual way lol. Ricardo Carvalho pursued him from Porto to Chelsea and now at Real Madrid. Maniche, Paulo Ferreira, Bosingwa from Porto to Chelsea and many others tried to do pursue him but were unfortunate, like Deco and Maicon. Josι Mourinho is the best ever, he only lost ONE MATCH at home in his whole carrer... FC Porto-Uniγo de Leiria. He doesn't stay in clubs very long because he wants to win the best championships of Europe, and he is right in doing so, because when he leaves, the club NEVER win the next championship, proving that he is good, unlike Alex Ferguson that doesn't leave Manchester United. You also ask how good would he be if managed lower class teams?? Well, here's a resume of his short career- Started in SL Benfica and the season was already started a few months ago, lost his first match but won all of the matches afterward until he got in a discussion with Benfica's President and got fired. After his left, Benfica ended the season in 6th place, an all time bad record for the team... Next season- Uniao de Leiria. This was a very low class team and Josι Mourinho put them in 5th place, an all time record for this team! Next season- FC Porto- won the championship with only 2 losses, one of them at home, won the Cup and won Uefa Cup (FC Porto wasn't at Champions League) Next season- FC Porto- won the championship with only 2 losses, the Super Cup and the Champions League! This is a major achievement for a low budget team. In the past 15 years was the only non English, German, Spanish or Italian team to win the greatest trophy. Next Season- Chelsea- won the championship with only 2 losses and the Cup. Lost in the semi-finals in Champions League against Liverpool thanks to a phantom goal... Next Season- Chelsea- won the championship with only 1 loss, the Cup and the Community Shield. Lost in the quarter-finals against Barcelona after a huge game by Ronaldinho. Next Season- Chelsea- won the Community Shield, got in a discussion with Chelsea's president and got fired. Chelsea won more trophys in two seasons with Mourinho than in the REST of it's history! It would take 3 seasons after Mourinho's left to Chelsea win a championship again. Next Season- Inter- won the championship, the cup and the super-cup. In Champions League lost against Manchester United after a great game of Cristiano Ronaldo. Next Season- Inter- won the championship, the cup, the super-cup and the Champions League!! Won everything to be won in a season!! And defeated the all-mighty Barcelona... This Season- Real Madrid- currently in second post and has only one lost, against Barcelona! Real is a consistant team and has the advantage of having a match against Barcelona at home yet to be played. Edited by Pedro, Dec 17 2010, 10:46 PM.
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| Pedro | Dec 17 2010, 10:53 PM Post #11 |
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And he is also a great player 'creator'. Nobody knew Deco until Mourinho got his hand on him. Lampard and Terry weren't internationally huge before Mourinho. Same as Ricardo Carvalho, Maicon, Sneijder, Diego Milito, Di Maria, Marcelo... How about goalkeepers? Who are Vitor Baia, Petr Che and Julio Cιsar? Oh, I know! They are those goalkeepers that received international awards WHILE being coached by Mourinho. Funny though, they weren't famous before that. |
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