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gotenks; ss3? nup.
Topic Started: Jul 17 2010, 01:27 AM (675 Views)
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should gotenks be able to become ss3? he is a halfblood, but is a fusion of to halfbloods, making him a full saiyan, except the fact that he will also be full human, brining him back to half. i think only full bloods should be able to, and gotenks is really small and doesnt have enough room to cotain all the excess energy created by the transformation. goku in gt could only last a few seconds in ss3, where gotenks must have lots of potential to transform into ss3. post your thoughts here.
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It never made a lot of sense to me. With the Buu saga I kept getting the sense that it was originally supposed to end at certain points but somebody kept wanting to add more. Hense why we have so many incredibly strong characters who get defeated very easliy and very quickly. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta, Gotenks, Gohan, Vegito doesn't get defeated but allows himself to be swallowed then loses the form, I believe Buu was supposed to die Gohan's hand but somebody important didn't want that to happen.


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Jul 17 2010, 01:34 AM
It never made a lot of sense to me. With the Buu saga I kept getting the sense that it was originally supposed to end at certain points but somebody kept wanting to add more. Hense why we have so many incredibly strong characters who get defeated very easliy and very quickly. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta, Gotenks, Gohan, Vegito doesn't get defeated but allows himself to be swallowed then loses the form, I believe Buu was supposed to die Gohan's hand but somebody important didn't want that to happen.
hmmmm.... interesting. do you think it should of been ss2 instead? or maybe just ss?
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Well, GT isn't necessarily canon. Gotenks goes SSj3 in the manga and retains the form. Personally, I think DBZ would have been great ending at Freeza, Cell was a great saga too, but, the Boo saga lacked a lot of luster, I think it was rather forced.
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but it was pretty awesome, you gotta admit..
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Of coure he should... If not for the reason you stated, then, no half blood should be able to go any level of Super Saiyan.

Super Saiyan 3 is also caused by extreme emotions, nothing else.
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First of all, SSJ seven and eight year olds are ridiculous to begin with. Second of all, it's really never stated how much saiyan blood you need to go SSJ3. Third of all, GT really isn't anything to refer to. Finally, fourth of all, Gotenks did not go through any rage. Yeah, he could have, but how did he accomplish that in the room of spirit and time all alone? I suppose Vegeta and Gohan dying by Buu could have helped Gotenks transform...

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has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
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The transformation to SSJ3 was explained by Goku. The emotional surge is only needed to transform into SSJ and SSJ2, SSJ3 doesnt require it. Although i dont really have proof, going off what Goku has said and done, he's never mentioned it. All he said was you need SSJ and SSJ2, and that the power comes from deep within and you have to push hard to find it. We aren't given exactly what triggers it but lets go off how Goku and Gotenks ascended.

Goku spent all his time in other world training, getting stronger and eventually achieved SSJ3.
Gotenks spent their whole time training in RoSaT, getting stronger and eventually achieved SSJ3.

So by means of transformation, i'd say you have to train the SSJ2 state until eventually you get strong enough to take it one step further. But seeing as how Gotenks is never shown to go SSJ2, he must be able given the fact he can go SSJ3.
You cant just skip transformations, and GT is ridiculous by making Vegeta skip SSJ3 and making him go SSJ4 instead...so stupid...
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I think its reasonable. they were already both so strong for their age, they were both super saiyans.
And fusing them together is just a huge increase of power. I think its reasonable that they were then strong enough to become a SSJ3.

Im not so much worried about the terms of transformation, because as far as we know, Goku just trained in heaven for 7 years and achieved it by getting strong enough. So, Gotenks had the power there, and he just figured it out in the RoSaT. easy enough.
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Super Saiyan 3 just requires enough power, training and devotion. Emotions aren't stated to be necessary.
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Aug 8 2010, 04:51 AM
The transformation to SSJ3 was explained by Goku. The emotional surge is only needed to transform into SSJ and SSJ2, SSJ3 doesnt require it. Although i dont really have proof, going off what Goku has said and done, he's never mentioned it. All he said was you need SSJ and SSJ2, and that the power comes from deep within and you have to push hard to find it. We aren't given exactly what triggers it but lets go off how Goku and Gotenks ascended.

I completely forgot about that.
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has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. :D
Now, there's an idea.
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I don't think your POV makes sense?

Gotenks shouldn't be able to go SSJ because he is a half breed?


Goten and Trunks can go SSJ why the hell wouldn't Gotenks be able to?


Gotenks reaching SSJ3? Why would that matter since Gotenks can reach SSJ. If you can reach one form you could reach all. You just have to train long enough. Gotenks potential is amazing and so is his power.


Gotenks is far beyond Goku and his ability to reach SSJ3 would be much easier.
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