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When did the broly moive take place
Topic Started: Apr 16 2010, 02:01 AM (15,813 Views)
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Jul 30 2010, 03:48 AM
Except for why Gohan wasn't able to use SSjin 2 right off the bat. Was it because he didn't want to resort to that or something? Goku came down and basically gave him a little pep talk, then Gohan just went SSjin 2. It's like what the hell Gohan, what were you doing this whole time, you know?
Well I guess since it was right after beating Cell so he hadn't learnt how to tap into the power at will just yet. He still needed that push just like the one 16 gave him. Plus Gohan being Gohan he doesn't like hurting people until he turns SSJ2 and goes ape ***** on people chopping them in half lol

And on Wrath of the Dragon not making sense. The only thing that didn't make sense was Trunks getting his sword.
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Or how about how SSjin 3 Goku tanks hits from Hirudegarn that knocked SSjin 3 Gotenks out of fusion? Lol.

Anyway, maybe you're right with the Gohan thing.
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Goku might have been pretty strong at that point. Seeing as he was able to go SSJ3 so fast and easy. Not to mention Hirudegarn was pretty weak because Goku was making him emotional. Wow a monster that gets weak from having a sook. That sounds so lame lol. He still wouldn't have gotten weak that fast though so yeah it is kinda confusing.
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I don't see how Goku could've surpassed Ultimate Gohan in what, 2 years at the most?
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Gohan was knocked out way to easy. It was just one of those nobody is stronger than Goku movies
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Yeah.
For Gohan, its just like Goku when he first went Super Saiyan. He had the form but simply had to train with it in order to tap into it at pure will.
Yeah, they should have had Gohan battle Hirudegarn and weaken him alot, but since he's a monster of mist or whatever was said, Goku needs to use his Dragon Fist in order to completely purify and destroy him?
But hey as you said its a "Goku is the best " movie lol
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Jul 22 2010, 01:23 PM
I never said Cell was dead. I never really said he was alive either. All I am saying is that the movie takes place when Goku and Gohan are clearly post-RoSaT, which was in the ten day period of rest before the Cell Game started in the real timeline. Maybe your theory is correct, but it doesn't prove that this wouldn't have happened around the ten day period in the real timeline. And I'm not saying Movie 8 is part of the real timeline. Second of all, the fact that Gohan is in different clothes has no baring on the subject. They're practically the same clothes he wears in the Cell Game anyway, except he has a red sash in Movie 8. Third of all, Vegeta and Trunks could've only trained for one more day in the RoSaT, and training outside the chamber is pointless in the amount of time they had left. So don't expect them to be pushing themselves through the ground. Fourthly, I already explained in another topic why it doesn't matter they are in base state. They are still Post-RoSaT Super Saiyans.
It's already pretty widely accepted that none of the movies are well-synced to the anime storyline. Many hints of this exist, most notabily the fact that none of the villians or occurences from a film are ever mentioned in the series by the characters or hinted at in the story plot. In fact Super Android 13 is the only movie that even shows a scene from the anime (#17 and #18 rebeling against Gero). However it differs in the fact that they did not find and activate #16 and the Z-fighters were not at the entrance to the cave and now all of the Androids are running amok. #13,#14#15,#17 and #18 all running around the same planet! sorry i got off topic. But Movie 8 is definetly set in the 10 day rest period of the Cell Games. without a doubt.
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I'm not saying that the movies are canon. I'm not saying that they actually happened. I'm saying that if you were to say what time period the movies took place in, say like for Movie 8, it would obviously have taken place during the time of the ten-day waiting period. And Movie 9 does make a referance to Cell. So, like I said in another thread, the movies take things, and leave things. Goku could not have been fighting the androids in Movie 7 in the real timeline because he was either sick or waiting to train in the hyperbolic time chamber. We saw that nothing happened between that.
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Goku might have been pretty strong at that point. Seeing as he was able to go SSJ3 so fast and easy. Not to mention Hirudegarn was pretty weak because Goku was making him emotional. Wow a monster that gets weak from having a sook. That sounds so lame lol. He still wouldn't have gotten weak that fast though so yeah it is kinda confusing.
The emotions thing was just the dub. The Japanese one doesn't have that. The reason that Hirudegarn wasn't able to damage SSjin 3 Goku was because Trunks cut his tail off. We saw in a flashback that his tail can open up and he can pull people in, so it could also be some part of his digestive system and not solely his tail.

Hirudegarn owns SSjin 3 Gotenks and Chou Gohan -> Trunks cuts his tail off -> SSjin 3 Goku owns Hirudegarn

It's the only thing I can think of since even with one year of training, I don't think SSjin 3 Goku can overcome Gohan in power. Gotenks, possibly, but Gohan, no. It's just too much of a gap in power for one year of training.
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Lord Cooler
Jul 30 2010, 05:22 PM
Goku might have been pretty strong at that point. Seeing as he was able to go SSJ3 so fast and easy. Not to mention Hirudegarn was pretty weak because Goku was making him emotional. Wow a monster that gets weak from having a sook. That sounds so lame lol. He still wouldn't have gotten weak that fast though so yeah it is kinda confusing.
The emotions thing was just the dub. The Japanese one doesn't have that. The reason that Hirudegarn wasn't able to damage SSjin 3 Goku was because Trunks cut his tail off. We saw in a flashback that his tail can open up and he can pull people in, so it could also be some part of his digestive system and not solely his tail.

Hirudegarn owns SSjin 3 Gotenks and Chou Gohan -> Trunks cuts his tail off -> SSjin 3 Goku owns Hirudegarn

It's the only thing I can think of since even with one year of training, I don't think SSjin 3 Goku can overcome Gohan in power. Gotenks, possibly, but Gohan, no. It's just too much of a gap in power for one year of training.
Wow really? Thats the reason he was weakened? Still that just doesnt seem right? I understand he gained power through his tail but getting it cut off made him weak?
I've never heard that... weird...
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Jul 30 2010, 05:22 PM
Goku might have been pretty strong at that point. Seeing as he was able to go SSJ3 so fast and easy. Not to mention Hirudegarn was pretty weak because Goku was making him emotional. Wow a monster that gets weak from having a sook. That sounds so lame lol. He still wouldn't have gotten weak that fast though so yeah it is kinda confusing.
The emotions thing was just the dub. The Japanese one doesn't have that. The reason that Hirudegarn wasn't able to damage SSjin 3 Goku was because Trunks cut his tail off. We saw in a flashback that his tail can open up and he can pull people in, so it could also be some part of his digestive system and not solely his tail.

Hirudegarn owns SSjin 3 Gotenks and Chou Gohan -> Trunks cuts his tail off -> SSjin 3 Goku owns Hirudegarn

It's the only thing I can think of since even with one year of training, I don't think SSjin 3 Goku can overcome Gohan in power. Gotenks, possibly, but Gohan, no. It's just too much of a gap in power for one year of training.
Wow really? Thats the reason he was weakened? Still that just doesnt seem right? I understand he gained power through his tail but getting it cut off made him weak?
I've never heard that... weird...
Yeah I've never heard of that either. So they actually say that in the Japanese version or are you just guessing that's what happens?
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Jul 30 2010, 05:22 PM
Goku might have been pretty strong at that point. Seeing as he was able to go SSJ3 so fast and easy. Not to mention Hirudegarn was pretty weak because Goku was making him emotional. Wow a monster that gets weak from having a sook. That sounds so lame lol. He still wouldn't have gotten weak that fast though so yeah it is kinda confusing.
The emotions thing was just the dub. The Japanese one doesn't have that. The reason that Hirudegarn wasn't able to damage SSjin 3 Goku was because Trunks cut his tail off. We saw in a flashback that his tail can open up and he can pull people in, so it could also be some part of his digestive system and not solely his tail.

Hirudegarn owns SSjin 3 Gotenks and Chou Gohan -> Trunks cuts his tail off -> SSjin 3 Goku owns Hirudegarn

It's the only thing I can think of since even with one year of training, I don't think SSjin 3 Goku can overcome Gohan in power. Gotenks, possibly, but Gohan, no. It's just too much of a gap in power for one year of training.
Wow really? Thats the reason he was weakened? Still that just doesnt seem right? I understand he gained power through his tail but getting it cut off made him weak?
I've never heard that... weird...
Yeah I've never heard of that either. So they actually say that in the Japanese version or are you just guessing that's what happens?
I'm just guessing but given what happens, I'd say it's the best explanation one can give, considering that emotions don't really make Hirudy weaker (that's a horrible dub addition and is only true for Janemba). Plus, as I've said, his tail could also be a part of his digestive system. Aside from Boo-like beings or beings with extreme regeneration like Cell, can you name any character that, if they had intestines or liver ripped out, could still function just as they did if they hadn't? I can't.
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Well when you put it like that it makes more sense.... but still....
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"Wow a monster that gets weak from having a sook."
yeah and broly gets stronger from having a sook about kakarot. hirudegarns weakness is that hes vulnerable while attacking. thats how the dragon fist worked.
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Oh right i see.... But still last kinda lame also...
He said "Emotions drain its strength" or something like that and that "He's vulnerable after he attacks."
Still is a lame excuse but God thats a good movie.
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