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Thoughts on the ginyu force
Topic Started: Feb 28 2010, 05:20 AM (1,686 Views)
Qwuall
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I often see people place Recoome below Jeice and Burter, why is that? Is it because he dies first?

How strong would you say the members are? (excluding Ginu since we know)
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Aye ive noticed this too.
Its daft cause there is no conclusive evidence outside of what is said by Vegeta and co. and what is done to them. We simply dont get to see them fight enough against more varied opponents.

Vegeta goes from getting beaten to a pulp by Reacoom to wiping out Jeice like a fly and taking on 1st form Frieza. Wow

Often seen power level charts where its something like this:
Reacoom 45,000 - Burter 60,000 - Jeice 85,000
which is stupid when Jeice felt dumb-struck by the idea that Goku was upto 60,000 after Ginyu makes a prediction on his strength (check manga- Book 8- Tale89 page 104). I think the logic is based on what Quall suggested; simply because they die at later stages in a certain order.

Guldo is said to be a total shrimp compared to the others, its his Time Stop and psychic powers which got him in.
Reacoom and Burter and Jeice are all claimed to be of the same power level (check manga- Book 8-Tale87 page 74, little line from krillin) and Captain Ginyu is obviously the power house leader of the group being nearly 3 times as strong at 120,000.

Guldo could sit in the 10,000 range- Reacoom, Burter and Jeice in the 40,000+ range

Ive read somewhere that Reacoom is like the muscle strength type of the team, Burter the speed warrior and Jeice is liike a happy medium but there power levels are roughly the same.
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I've always thought that Reacoom, Burter and Jeice all had the same ammount of raw power, but they each trained themselves to harness their power in different ways. Reacoom channeled his into brute strength, Burter into speed and Jeice into a balance. As we've often seen, whenever the good guys raised their power levels, both their strength and speed improved. So Burter and Reacoom chose to develop lopsidedly in favor of speed or strength, respectively, and Jeice chose a path similar to the Z-fighters'.

BattleMetal that's a good point about Vegeta going from being inferior to Reacoom to being equal with Freeza after just one zenkai boost. In fact it only took him three boosts to get from his Saiyan saga level to being able to swat Jeice, while it took Goku ten (I think) boosts to get that far. And then when Vegeta gets one more boost, he still gets beat up by Freeza's final form at 1% of his power, yet when Goku gets one more boost, he is able to force Freeza to power up to 50%. All of that never made any sense to me.
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Feb 28 2010, 11:53 AM
I've always thought that Reacoom, Burter and Jeice all had the same ammount of raw power, but they each trained themselves to harness their power in different ways. Reacoom channeled his into brute strength, Burter into speed and Jeice into a balance. As we've often seen, whenever the good guys raised their power levels, both their strength and speed improved. So Burter and Reacoom chose to develop lopsidedly in favor of speed or strength, respectively, and Jeice chose a path similar to the Z-fighters'.

BattleMetal that's a good point about Vegeta going from being inferior to Reacoom to being equal with Freeza after just one zenkai boost. In fact it only took him three boosts to get from his Saiyan saga level to being able to swat Jeice, while it took Goku ten (I think) boosts to get that far. And then when Vegeta gets one more boost, he still gets beat up by Freeza's final form at 1% of his power, yet when Goku gets one more boost, he is able to force Freeza to power up to 50%. All of that never made any sense to me.
Agree with your first paragraph and you added more clearer detail to what i was saying too :)

Second bit I have a slight theory on maybe why that was, that Goku took 10 to ascend to a certain level while Vegeta seemingly took only 3. Its just a theory and doesnt hold too much weight as nothing is ever said in the manga to confirm it but its one i think could be applied here.

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http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8040430/1/
Link to my DBZ fan-fic tale: Saiyans, Frieza, the Ginyu Force and other alien races and beings all chucked into the soup-pot for all out action and glory!

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8129945/1/#new
Link to a DBZ inspired story/ battle scenario that i did when i was 16

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8071554/1/#new
Link to the Marvel/DC tale of the super-powered hereos and villians of both verses. Biggest heavy-hitters square off in an almight-free-for-all brawl!
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I've mentioned this several times before on various topics. There is a gameboy game, Dragonball Z Gekitouden. It gives very accurate data regarding power levels. Jeice, Reecoome and Burter all have power levels of 50000. Guldo's is 10000.


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I see them as

Recoome - 48k (power)
Jeice - 45k (balance)
Burter - 42k (speed)

and Guldo is really hard to place. Power wise, he looks as bad as yajirobi.
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I think that Jeice and Burter are equal in terms of strength, and I think that Recoome is slightly stronger than both of them. Jeice and Burter seem more specifically team-oriented too for the record.

Guldo has a puny power level, but his abilities are so cheap and offsetting that he could kill anyone at any time with the proper luck streak.

Ginyu is actually overrated in my opinion. Somehow I don't believe he's quite as strong as he puts on, what with the body he's using not being his and all. The negative effects he had with Goku's body could be a reflection on Ginyu's actual strength for all we know.
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I always thought of it like, Gurd had a PL of like 200, Recoome was 50,000, Burter and Jheese were 40,000, and Ginyu was 120,000.
DUNNO WHY. I mean, obviously Gurd can have as little a power level as he wants. Its his magic that counts. Like Babidi. Im sure his PL isnt too high, but is magic is pretty dangerous.
I think Recoome was a step above Burter and Jheese, and I always thought those two were equal.

of course i have no basis on this.
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Feb 28 2010, 12:20 PM
Its like if you keep taking a certain medicine, your body can kinda get immune to the effects.
For Vegeta he has used the Healing Pod method probably for years, so yeah his PL still increases, but not too dramatically BUT when he was given a senzu bean his body got a massive kick out of this new healing method. Same idea with Vegeta then getting healed by Dende and somehow ascending past Piccolo (potentially, really not sure if he physically was too much stronger, more that he was able to keep up better with Friezas movements- easy to watch a fight but to compete in one is a different ball game).
Great quote here. I think Goku was just so much stronger than Vegeta was before his fight with the Ginyu force, that it seemed like he gained a lot more power after he emerge from the Healing Pod, when he really only advanced to the same proportion that Vegeta would have in his place.

Vegetas' constant recoveries from mortal wounds in the Frieza saga was just a way for him to power-up without going through intense training. Vegeta powered up three times that I can remember (after fighting Zarbon and Recoome and after being shot by Krillin), but that only multiplied his strength so many times. Goku was more powerful to begin with, so him multiplying his strength only once after fighting Captain Ginyu still kept him far ahead of Vegeta.


For the Ginyu Force, I agree with everyone that says Recoome was stronger than Burter and Jeice. Burter and Jeice used team maneuvers, so they were more of a threat as a pair. Someone already said this...

Just don't forget that the greatest aspect of the Ginyu Force was...their style. No one could strike a better pose. Even Gohan had to have been influenced by their poses when he became The Great Saiyaman. Alright, I'm joking, except about the influence on Gohan...

The Ginyu Force were awesome.
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The Ginyu Force wouldn't have been half as awesome without their great theme tune designed by Faulconer. Epic stuff.
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Jun 7 2010, 08:42 PM
The Ginyu Force wouldn't have been half as awesome without their great theme tune designed by Faulconer. Epic stuff.
lol, agreed. :p
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