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Kid Buu vs Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed); The Battle of the Buus
Topic Started: Feb 20 2010, 10:11 AM (26,887 Views)
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He wasn't confident of taking on Super Buu, he powered down, he realised that Gohan could wipe out Super Buu with ease now that he lost all that power from Gotenks.
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hmm good point
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i could be way off on this...but if the power difference of transforming from fat buu to super buu is because the evil side takes over, wouldn't the base form of buu, the purest evil form, be the strongest (definitely most dangerous)? In any case i would think super buu (no absorptions) and kid buu would be relatively the same at least, in my opinion kid buu still being stronger...it would also follow the trend of DBZ, with the final form you see being the strongest...?
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the strongest form of buu without any normal absorptions is buff buu. the anime completely contradicts the manga in the buu arc when it comes to power.

the anime powerscale is

ssj3 goku > kid buu > buuhan > buutenks > fat buu > evil buu > good buu > ssj2 goku > ultimate gohan > buucolo > ssj3 gotenks = super buu

the manga powerscale is

buuhan > buutenks > ultimate gohan > ssj3 gotenks ~ super buu > ssj gotenks (post rosat) > base gotenks (post rosat) > ssj gotenks (pre rosat) > ssj3 goku ~ kid buu > fat buu > ssj2 gohan (post z sword) > evil buu > base gotenks (pre rosat) > good buu > ssj2 goku.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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ktscyclones
Jun 24 2011, 05:01 AM
Then why is Goku so confident on taking on Super Buu himself right after gotenks' fusion wears off....?
Now I know you've only seen the FUNi dub where they make it seem as if Goku is disappointed and doesn't even consider Piccolo-Boo a fight. In the original Japanese version, Goku's line matches up pretty well with the manga's line, which is:

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P10.4-5
Goku: “Hahha—ah! Piccolo’s coming out strong now! Looks like the Fused squirts have returned to normal! You ran out of time! Tooo—oo bad! Your power’s fallen a whole lot. Cheh…I’m a little disappointed. This way, Gohan will be able to beat you even on his own…

I'll still get to the other points later.
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It should be kid Buu. That's the only way because every person that Buu absorbed earlier just made him weaker. And Super Buu can sometimes feel remorse, but Kid Buu doesn't. And in the Buu Saga we hear Goku say that Kid Buu has gained a lot of energy. Kid Buu would win. Even if Gohan was absorbed, Vegito could still beat him. Even as a coffee flavored candy! But Elder Kai said that even fused Vegito would have to work very hard since Kid Buu was so tough. And Fusion wouldn't be enough time to beat him.
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Jun 25 2011, 11:42 AM
It should be kid Buu. That's the only way because every person that Buu absorbed earlier just made him weaker. And Super Buu can sometimes feel remorse, but Kid Buu doesn't. And in the Buu Saga we hear Goku say that Kid Buu has gained a lot of energy. Kid Buu would win. Even if Gohan was absorbed, Vegito could still beat him. Even as a coffee flavored candy! But Elder Kai said that even fused Vegito would have to work very hard since Kid Buu was so tough. And Fusion wouldn't be enough time to beat him.
Riiiiiiiiight. I think it's best if we just all ignore this guy's post. So many thing wrong with it that aren't worth mentioning. It's basically all wrong.
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Xicer
Jun 25 2011, 11:42 AM
It should be kid Buu. That's the only way because every person that Buu absorbed earlier just made him weaker. And Super Buu can sometimes feel remorse, but Kid Buu doesn't. And in the Buu Saga we hear Goku say that Kid Buu has gained a lot of energy. Kid Buu would win. Even if Gohan was absorbed, Vegito could still beat him. Even as a coffee flavored candy! But Elder Kai said that even fused Vegito would have to work very hard since Kid Buu was so tough. And Fusion wouldn't be enough time to beat him.
1. the only person that made buu weaker was daikaioshin. every other absorption made buu stronger.

2. the ability to feel remorse (which super buu doesn't) has nothing to do with power.

3. goku never said that kid buu gained energy.

4. old kai never said that vegito would have to work hard (or anything along those lines) to beat kid buu.

5. the potara fusion has no time limit, while the metamoran fusion has a full 30 minutes, more than enough time to one shot somebody.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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oodle
Jun 25 2011, 01:01 PM
Xicer
Jun 25 2011, 11:42 AM
It should be kid Buu. That's the only way because every person that Buu absorbed earlier just made him weaker. And Super Buu can sometimes feel remorse, but Kid Buu doesn't. And in the Buu Saga we hear Goku say that Kid Buu has gained a lot of energy. Kid Buu would win. Even if Gohan was absorbed, Vegito could still beat him. Even as a coffee flavored candy! But Elder Kai said that even fused Vegito would have to work very hard since Kid Buu was so tough. And Fusion wouldn't be enough time to beat him.
Riiiiiiiiight. I think it's best if we just all ignore this guy's post. So many thing wrong with it that aren't worth mentioning. It's basically all wrong.
Oodle, please do not be so rude to others' opinions. That sort of thing is not tolerated in the Dragonball section.
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I was looking through random Akira Toriyama interviews and found this:

"Q: I am compelled to ask you this question, whose stronger? Kid buu or Super buu?
A: I've been asked this by many fans throughout the years, the answer is quite simple, even if I give a straight answer many would stay with their own personal convictions which is perfectly fine. One things for sure, one is stronger while the other is more dangerous..."

While he didn't outright state it, the fact almost everyone knows Kid Buu is the more dangerous one kinda proves Super Buu is the stronger one :P In case that helps anyone who doesn't yet know or was still on the fence about this.

Edit: According to some comments where I found the (Apparantly legit apart from this question) interview this question might be fake?
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yes, kid buu was stated to be the most dangerous, therefore super buu is the strongest. btw, where did that interview come from? there are enough unconfirmed or downright false interviews that we kinda have to ask every time someone brings one up.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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You got that from the ridiculous Pojo interview, which is a cluster of real questions from actual interviews and made up ones. That question, fortunately, is made up, and doesn't appear in any interview existing today. Plus, Pojo doesn't even give a source for that interview, so it's automatically unreliable.
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Jun 25 2011, 06:34 PM
yes, kid buu was stated to be the most dangerous, therefore super buu is the strongest. btw, where did that interview come from? there are enough unconfirmed or downright false interviews that we kinda have to ask every time someone brings one up.
I just edited my post lol.

Anyway I got it from here http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=910107

Seems totally legit anyway compared to other interviews I've seen, but according to the comments the Buu one is fake
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Jun 25 2011, 06:36 PM
lunar2
Jun 25 2011, 06:34 PM
yes, kid buu was stated to be the most dangerous, therefore super buu is the strongest. btw, where did that interview come from? there are enough unconfirmed or downright false interviews that we kinda have to ask every time someone brings one up.
I just edited my post lol.

Anyway I got it from here http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=910107

Seems totally legit anyway compared to other interviews I've seen, but according to the comments the Buu one is fake
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15329&hilit=Interview

It's not legit.
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Jun 25 2011, 06:41 PM
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Jun 25 2011, 06:36 PM
lunar2
Jun 25 2011, 06:34 PM
yes, kid buu was stated to be the most dangerous, therefore super buu is the strongest. btw, where did that interview come from? there are enough unconfirmed or downright false interviews that we kinda have to ask every time someone brings one up.
I just edited my post lol.

Anyway I got it from here http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=910107

Seems totally legit anyway compared to other interviews I've seen, but according to the comments the Buu one is fake
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15329&hilit=Interview

It's not legit.
The interview in the thread you posted wasn't the same as the one I was looking at :P But yeah I know it's fake now.
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